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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    The more I watch IA's clips from this season, the more h looks like a taller Soroka but nowhere near the spin movement on his pitches. Cheff said his spin rates weren't all that great.

    I'd be willing to sell high.
    I guess I could agree with that, but I just think it's weird what he's doing at such a young age with a low spin rate on his breaking pitch. Something seems off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    I guess I could agree with that, but I just think it's weird what he's doing at such a young age with a low spin rate on his breaking pitch. Something seems off.
    I agree. The data is off somewhere with Anderson. I wish we could sell the Mets on a Wright, Allard, +, + deal. If we could get Thor without trading the big 3 then AA wins the trade deadline hands down.

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    AA should trade for Greinke and make the Mets pay for it.
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    If Markakis is out for awhile does Peralta make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    If Markakis is out for awhile does Peralta make sense?
    Snakes are two and a half games out of the wild card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Snakes are two and a half games out of the wild card.
    Everyone still seems to think they are selling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Snakes are two and a half games out of the wild card.
    That’s why the market has moved so slow, a lot of teams still think they have a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    That’s why the market has moved so slow, a lot of teams still think they have a shot.
    I think it's more, a lot of teams aren't trying to signal to their fanbase this early that they're selling.

    The second wild card has really changed the game. So they'll probably wait until the last 24 hours to trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    I think it's more, a lot of teams aren't trying to signal to their fanbase this early that they're selling.

    The second wild card has really changed the game. So they'll probably wait until the last 24 hours to trade.
    Yeah I’d agree the last 24 hours will be pretty busy. I see a lot of overpaying going on to now that moves can’t be made in August.

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    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/...s-rangers.html

    Can't imagine AA has narrowed it down that far just yet, but if you play by the wondermous trade simulator and AA could get Leclerc for Muller and Allard and Diekman for De La Cruz and Demeritte, it leaves open the chance to make a play for Stroman and Giles since you haven't used any of your big pieces.
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    Leclerc is a younger right handed version of Vazquez without the track record. Both have very team friendly contracts. Approximately equal in terms of expected surplus value. Would slightly prefer Vasquez at the same price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Leclerc is a younger right handed version of Vazquez without the track record. Both have very team friendly contracts. Approximately equal in terms of expected surplus value. Would slightly prefer Vasquez at the same price.
    At the same price I'd take Vasquez, but I think Leclerc might come at a lower price point. He hasn't been as consistent as Vasquez and doesn't offer the same amount of name recognition. Its possible that might be neutralized by the fact that Leclerc is younger, cheaper, and is controlled for a year longer. But if we can "buy-low" on him to some degree I think I would prefer Leclerc because of the three factors I just mentioned. He's still gonna cost us a really healthy package though.

    But its hard not to drool at the thought of getting a reliever the quality of Leclerc at 4 million dollars per year through 2022 and then have 2 option years at 6 million. There is a tremendous amount of upside there. But like I said, it'd only be worth the cost if we could get the Rangers to sell slightly lower on him than a Vasquez package would cost.

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    Actually, the more that I think about it the more I'm not sure I want to trade for a "controllable" reliever. It just seems like paying the premium for cheap extra years of the most volatile asset in baseball is a bad idea. It would definitely cost us one of Anderson/Wright plus one from the 2nd tier of our prospects. That is a hefty price to pay for extra years of a reliever.

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    Apparently, the Braves and Jays have talked, but Stroman is NOT the focus of the dialogue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Apparently, the Braves and Jays have talked, but Stroman is NOT the focus of the dialogue.
    That's a BIG elephant in the room.
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    Diekman to Oakland

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    With Diekman coming off the board other teams may start making moves. I still think AA will make a bigger move for a closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    With Diekman coming off the board other teams may start making moves. I still think AA will make a bigger move for a closer.
    I could see him making a few moves...

    1. Starting pitcher
    2. Closer
    3. Relief pitcher
    4. Utility player

    Numbers 1 and 2 could be interchangeable depending on who it is and what he has to give up. But I’m pretty sure he does either one or both of those. Number 3 and 4 would be same situation, but less of a focus.
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    Someone the other day had an interesting way of looking at the trade deadline. The object is to look at your postseason roster and who you are going to use to help identify your biggest needs.

    Rotation:
    Game 1: Soroka
    Game 2: Keuchel
    Game 3: Teheran

    Bullpen:
    Jackson : closer
    Swarzak: set up
    Gausman
    Newk
    Freid
    Folty
    Blevins
    Tomlin
    Sobotka
    Minter

    Lineup:
    Acuña CF
    Swanson SS
    Freeman 1B
    Donaldson 3B
    Markakis RF (depending how he comes back)
    Albies 2B
    Riley LF
    McCann/Flowers

    Bench:
    McCann//Flowers
    Culberson
    Joyce
    Camargo

    Honestly Teheran game 3 doesn’t do anything for me so I’d definitely need to upgrade there. Same thing with Jackson as closer. Rather get one of those and bump everyone down. Guys such as Tomlin, Blevins, Minter, etc become more expendable...
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    One of many scenarios #Mets are exploring, per sources: Syndergaard to #Padres, then using some of return to land Stroman from #BlueJays. Not known which players would go from SD to NYM if deal occurred. RHP Cal Quantrill, a Canadian native, would be logical target for TOR.

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