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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    What type of package would you give for Stro?

    I wouldnt give up Anderson, Pache or Waters, but anyone else, i'd be open to.
    Camargo, Wright and Wentz for Stroman and Giles

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    Folty’s SL still has a spin rate a little above average. This suggests to me the loss in movement is mechanical, causing him to not get as much effective spin as last year.

    Someone smart needs to get Folty straightened out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Folty’s SL still has a spin rate a little above average. This suggests to me the loss in movement is mechanical, causing him to not get as much effective spin as last year.

    Someone smart needs to get Folty straightened out.
    You need to work for the Braves.

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    It's quite possible that he altered his mechanics because he is afraid that his old mechanics, or more the 2018 ones will cause his bone spurs to flare and bother him again. Either way, these mechanics that he has now messed up his best two pitches. He tried a couple different things to try to work around it, but his other pitches just aren't as good (his sinker stinks but the changeup is solid and the curve is good, but the only pitch that might match his top slider/fastball is the curve), so he can't diversify his pitches and just "pitch".

    Either way, it's a mess and I don't think we'll be seeing him back for a while unless the pitching continues to not go as planned. It's a matter of he needs to work on getting back to the 2018 mechanics aaaannnnndddddd be given confidence his bone spurs won't flare while pitching that way. The earliest I can see him back is probably mid August.
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    Additional tidbits about Folty's "emotions"

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    #Braves' Snitker on Folty's emotions getting best of him: “I thought he had turned a corner, but I’m seeing signs this year of going right back where he was 2 or 3 years ago. It’s something that he going to have to (fix), because nobody can take care of that other than him."

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    #Braves pitching coach Rick Kranitz on emotions affecting Foltynewicz on mound: "I think it affects anybody, when you get overemotional and you start to overthrow and you do get out of your mechanics. Every pitcher in the game needs to be able to keep emotions in check.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by salmagundy View Post
    Additional tidbits about Folty's "emotions"

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    #Braves' Snitker on Folty's emotions getting best of him: “I thought he had turned a corner, but I’m seeing signs this year of going right back where he was 2 or 3 years ago. It’s something that he going to have to (fix), because nobody can take care of that other than him."

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    #Braves pitching coach Rick Kranitz on emotions affecting Foltynewicz on mound: "I think it affects anybody, when you get overemotional and you start to overthrow and you do get out of your mechanics. Every pitcher in the game needs to be able to keep emotions in check.”
    I said it. Over and over. Am I Yoda now? Lol. Seriously...we all have hope for him. Dr Llewellyn retired or no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    For a minute I thought you were talking about Stroman in your post in the first paragraph.
    That's funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deester11 View Post
    I said it. Over and over. Am I Yoda now? Lol. Seriously...we all have hope for him. Dr Llewellyn retired or no?
    You suggested that Folty was a head case?

    I was under the impression it was common knowledge...

    Or you suggested they would send him to AAA like they’ve done with almost every single pitcher since AA took over?

    Which limb did you climb out on haha?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Former major league pitcher Mike Maroth.
    Wow I didn’t know this.

    Maroth was a rotation fixture of the worst pitching staff I have ever seen in my life. The 2003 Tigers. I can’t fathom what it was like to follow that dreadful team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Wow I didn’t know this.

    Maroth was a rotation fixture of the worst pitching staff I have ever seen in my life. The 2003 Tigers. I can’t fathom what it was like to follow that dreadful team.
    He was a decent 5th starter for my Tigers dynasty in MVP 2004.

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    It's pretty much a combo of bad mechanics and attitude with Folty right now. His location was as bad as I've seen it from him. That slider Adams homered was ugly. But his body language was just as disturbing. Tom Verducci really noted it on the broadcast last night. It was apparent to me something was going to happen when reading Snitker's quotes last night. Much like Bobby Cox, Brian mostly talks up his players and is not usually "matter of fact", if you will, like he was in regards to Mike. Folty is a talented pitchers hopefully he takes this assignment in the right fashion and figures it out.
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    In regards to trade possibility, I think a potential deal for a starter is increasing. I don't think it will happen before the All Star break. After the ASG, I think it's likely. I hope AA has a good plan, because of the new trade deadline timing this year, the time between the ASG and the July 31 deadline will likely be crazy.
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    Still, think he is hurt and just not saying. That ruined Steve Avery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I smell a trade for a starter in the next couple of weeks. Stroman?
    I do not see the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    You suggested that Folty was a head case?

    I was under the impression it was common knowledge...

    Or you suggested they would send him to AAA like they’ve done with almost every single pitcher since AA took over?

    Which limb did you climb out on haha?
    Huge. Huge limb. Last year people were loving when things were good. There were still underlying issues. Not a bad thing to call it even if the genius that you are says so as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Has nothing to do with him growing up Rico... good lord
    I don't know what else to call it when you visibly lose your composure on the mound if you don't get a strike call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico43 View Post
    I don't know what else to call it when you visibly lose your composure on the mound if you don't get a strike call.
    He’s mad at himself because he’s not been effective... I don’t see him being ineffective because he’s mad. It doesn’t look like the same emotional issues he dealt with when he was younger and always acting like it was the umps fault. I’m glad he shows emotion, that lets me knows he cares. If he was blaming others, that’s a problem... but he’s put it all on himself. And I don’t think it has anything to do with his emotions right now and has everything to do with his bone spurs. That would explain the sliders ineffectiveness which has been his main problem considering it’s such an elbow intensive pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaBrave View Post
    Still, think he is hurt and just not saying. That ruined Steve Avery.
    We rarely agree but I think it’s clear given the slider’s ineffectiveness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I do not see the point.
    You don’t see the point for another effective starter?

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