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    I feel sure camargo will start tomorrow for someone vs Lester

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    Nats released Rosenthal

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    The division is a wrap. It’s pretty pathetic that nearly 4/6 divisional “races” are over and it’s approaching the last week in June. You could argue that AL East is over too with the Yankees getting healthy.

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    Who are we suggesting to rest exactly?

    Whether this game was in April, June or September, you play your best against your division rivals. The killing blow won’t be landed today, but there’s definitely blood in the water.

    Next week I would look to give Donaldson, Freddie, Dansby, Ozzie, and Markakis each a day off.

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    expecting a yuge game from Markakis
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    The Nats are in the middle of a great stretch. They aren’t going to let losing a lead influence their decision making process. They are much smarter than the rah rah posters on a message board.

    They will decide in mid/late July to be buyers or sellers. What happens today or yesterday will carry no more weight than any other random game between now and then.

    All these silly cliches being thrown around are not followed by modern FOs.

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    I agree that no kill shot will be landed today, as an 8.5 game lead on June 23rd is not insurmountable. I also agree that you play your best players against your division rivals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The Nats are in the middle of a great stretch. They aren’t going to let losing a lead influence their decision making process. They are much smarter than the rah rah posters on a message board.

    They will decide in mid/late July to be buyers or sellers. What happens today or yesterday will carry no more weight than any other random game between now and then.

    All these silly cliches being thrown around are not followed by modern FOs.
    While I agree that Rizzo won’t let this influence him, it may have an impact on the Lerners who are known to be very hands on (e.g. nixing the Harper trade last year, negotiating directly with agents, etc.)

    And I disagree with your assessment of the weight of this game. If you agree that’s Washington our biggest threat in the division then these games inherently do matter twice as much.

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    Nats schedule to end the ASB: 6 vs the Marlins, 3 vs the Tigers and Royals.

    Braves have 7 on the road vs the Cubs and Mets, then Phils and Marlins at home.

    A 6.5 game lead vs 8.5 is yuge, im fine with keeping our starters in today. While i agree no killshot is landed today if the Braves win today, 8.5 game lead with 75 games or so left isnt impossible to catch, it would be big.
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    LOL...

    The playoff odds swing attached to this single game is like 1%.

    The cliche use today is impressive though haha.

    Division rivals
    Blood in the water
    Kill shot
    Foot on throats

    Solid you guys, very solid!
    Last edited by Enscheff; 06-23-2019 at 11:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    LOL...

    The playoff odds swing attached to this single game is like 1%.

    The cliche use today is impressive though haha.
    Braves % to win the division jumped from 67.3% to 72.7% after yesterdays win and to make the playoffs in general from 86.7% to 89.6%.

    Playing your direct competition does have a bigger swing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    LOL...

    The playoff odds swing attached to this single game is like 1%.

    The cliche use today is impressive though haha.

    Division rivals
    Blood in the water
    Kill shot
    Foot on throats

    Solid you guys, very solid!
    "Division rivals" is a cliche? Pretty sure that's not how it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    LOL...

    The playoff odds swing attached to this single game is like 1%.

    The cliche use today is impressive though haha.

    Division rivals
    Blood in the water
    Kill shot
    Foot on throats

    Solid you guys, very solid!
    If this is so, then what’s the issue with just resting guys tomorrow? You would agree that this game against Washington influences our playoff odds more than tomorrow’s game against Chicago?

    But in general, are we overemphasizing the importance of this game? Without a doubt. Just as we are probably overestimating the impact on win probability whether Josh Donaldson plays tonight or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Braves % to win the division jumped from 67.3% to 72.7% after yesterdays win and to make the playoffs in general from 86.7% to 89.6%.

    Playing your direct competition does have a bigger swing.
    I mean, that's just common sense. Dr. Scheff is reaching on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    I mean, that's just common sense. Dr. Scheff is reaching on this one.
    Yeah. Either way the Braves are in complete control. The Phillies have more or less tanked their season the last two weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Yeah. Either way the Braves are in complete control. The Phillies have more or less tanked their season the last two weeks.
    I know it’s a long season and this is 100% narrative bull****, but there’s something so defeating to lose against the Marlins with your ace on the mound the night Chase Utley had his jersey retired.

    It’s going to be wild if Miami can complete the sweep today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    rest and extent is the key
    size matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Nats schedule to end the ASB: 6 vs the Marlins, 3 vs the Tigers and Royals.

    Braves have 7 on the road vs the Cubs and Mets, then Phils and Marlins at home.

    A 6.5 game lead vs 8.5 is yuge, im fine with keeping our starters in today. While i agree no killshot is landed today if the Braves win today, 8.5 game lead with 75 games or so left isnt impossible to catch, it would be big.
    Lol we blew a 8.5 game lead in 23 days in 2011. Our best bet to win this division is keep everyone fresh and healthy. This a big missed opportunity to get some PT for Joyce, Camargo and Culberson

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    The percentage fluctuates based on lead versus time left. Not who you play. So if we lose 3 and the phils and bats win three our percentage will drop just as fast. We are always going to have another reason to play our starters. Oh it’s the Cubs. Gotta play the big guns. Oh the phils are coming in next. Wanna build that lead up more for that series. Oh my dog didn’t bark at the mailman. Must mean neck will have a big day.

    Our manager should have a plan to rest guys throughput the year and don’t waiver on that based on who you are playing. Twit is a horrible manager.
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