50PoundHead (07-11-2019), cajunrevenge (07-11-2019), Jaw (07-11-2019), JohnAdcox (07-11-2019)
The fake fat man tweets out a false rumor that makes a 7 page thread and breaks Braves twitter
Anyone know how bad this injury is? Maybe the injury lowers the price some but I'm worried about taking on an injured pitcher.
Really interesting to see if AA thinks a guy like Stroman is really a big upgrade.
I keep thinking he'll be more likely to get an Ivan Nova type to eat innings for nothing or just cycle through guys.
What is to”form” though? Folty has had one good year...one. Gausman (although talented), has also been decently inconsistent most of his career. I’m all for hanging onto them in hopes they will(both could do that), but betting the season on either of them to turn it around is a 50/50 shot at best.
The way AA explained himself in the interview is that he wants to have four starting pitchers he is comfortable going into a playoff series with. Right now he has 2 and he is open to internal candidates stepping forward and making their case. But time is running short and he is going to be checking on the availability of external candidates.
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Skepticism over Folty is certainly warranted, and I think the optimism around him stems from the fact that everyone has been waiting for that stuff to turn into TOR production. When it finally happened for a full season, we kinda acted like it was a permanent thing, when we probably would have been more skeptical towards any other pitcher on any other team. So yeah, maybe it's dumb to count on Folty being great again, and maybe we saw his career season in 2018.
Gausman, however, is what he is though...a declining pitcher who was a #3. Maybe it's also foolish to think he's going to rebound to being anything more than a #4 at this point as well.
I guess the point is that Bumgarner isn't anything more than a #4 anymore either, so why bother?
Aside from this year, Stroman has been a #4 since his awesome 2015, and even this year is more of a #3 than a TOR guy.
Wheeler, for all his promise, is only posting a .304 xwOBA this year, and posted a .342 mark in 2017. His .278 mark in 2018 could very well be his career season.
All these trade options, and none of them are slam dunks to be appreciably better than Folty/Gaus/Wilson/Anderson/Wright, so why spend real prospect capital to acquire any of them? Especially when the sheer number of arms in the system could allow for creative bullpenning or pitcher pairing?
Just like Paxton was the only difference maker available this past off season so I was in favor of getting him, Thor is the only true difference maker available now. All of the other available options would certainly make the team better, but they aren't so much better than the internal options to be worth giving up anything that isn't a very good good value play by AA (meaning the other team overvalues one of the Braves assets).
AerchAngel (07-11-2019), Jaw (07-11-2019), JohnAdcox (07-11-2019), jpx7 (07-11-2019), NYCBrave (07-11-2019)
JohnAdcox (07-11-2019)
From MLBTR
The Braves and Blue Jays haven’t had any discussions about Marcus Stroman, MLB Network’s Jon Heyman reports (Twitter link). While Stroman would be a fit on at least half the teams in the league, Atlanta stands out as a natural landing spot due to both the Braves’ talented but generally inexperienced rotation, and the connection between Stroman and Braves GM Alex Anthopoulos (who had the same job in Toronto from 2009-15). While a lack of talks to this point doesn’t mean that Stroman couldn’t eventually become a Braves target, Atlanta has been linked to other pitchers such as Madison Bumgarner or Zack Wheeler, and could simply prefer one of those players (or another arm altogether) to Stroman.
This thread has now become bigger than Stroman’s package. This is Yuge
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Jaw (07-11-2019)
Forever Fredi
How would Stroman fit on this team?
Forever Fredi
cajunrevenge (07-11-2019), Carp (07-11-2019), Super (07-11-2019)