Observation:
If the cow is already a steak, how can you keep it alive?
Observation:
If the cow is already a steak, how can you keep it alive?
Ivermectin Man
jpx7 (07-15-2019)
Wren signed both Freeman and Simmons to nice long term contracts. Despite his faults he wouldn't have traded Simmons like Coppy did. Thankfully Dave Stewart at least brought us Swanson. But I would still rather have Simmons at short than Swanson. Swanson's bat has been very good this year but he had bad range numbers and a -1 DRS. Soroka and DK would be even more dominate with a Simmons behind them. A lot of the cheap soft hit balls up the middle would be outs with Simmons too.
jpx7 (07-15-2019)
Simmons - 1.4 WAR, 13m 29 years old 1 more year at 15m
Swanson - 1.9 WAR, 585,000 25 years old. three more years of arb control
Simmons seems to be the clearly better fielder even now, but overall value isn't much different. Simmons seems to have peaked in the last two seasons at an average to slightly above average offense.
The Angels fans got to see some nice highlight reels the last few years, but no playoffs and only one winning season.
jpx7 (07-15-2019)
The Simmons, Kimbrel, and Olivera deals were so awful that it negated any small wins from Upton and Gattis deals.
The only thing that was a clear.win was the Dave Stewart trade.
Let it not be forgotten that Wren drafted Kimbrel, Gattis, Simmons, Wood, Peraza, and successfully traded for JUpton.
Unfortunately Coppy squandered those incredibly valuable assets.
Braves1976 (07-15-2019), jpx7 (07-15-2019)
LaStella was an all-star this year also. lol.
Forever Fredi
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
it’s further hilarious to discount coppy’s trades with arizona (that other GMs around the league didn’t make, of course) yet give wren credit for two guys he had nothing to do with signing.
wren was a bad GM. the team was in good shape while he was here because of players brought in before he was here. he did a horrible job of building around a talented team with poor drafting and downright terrible FA signings.
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
The funny thing is Wren has been gone for 5 years and he has still left a bigger mark on the current team than Coppy
jpx7 (07-15-2019)
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
jpx7 (07-15-2019), salmagundy (07-15-2019)
Wren basically has Albies, Acuna, Freeman.
Coppy has Riley, Swanson, Ender, Folty, Minter, Nick, Soroka, list goes on with guys like Waters, Pache, Muller, Wright, Contreras in the minors.
You dont have to like Coppy but he's a much bigger reason for the teams success than Wren and it aint close.