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    TUESDAY MINORS FINAL 7/16/19; Muller anchors Miss. shutout

    TUESDAY SCOREBOARD
    All Times Eastern

    CLASS AAA


    Lehigh Valley 4, Gwinnett 2

    LP: Gausman 7 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 10 K
    Hoekstra 2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K

    Lopez 2-3, HR (8th), 2 RBI
    Inciarte 1-5, 2B, R

    CLASS AA

    Mississippi 5, Jacksonville 0

    WP: Muller (6-5) 5.1 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 5 BB, 5 K
    Custodio 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 1 K
    Roney 0.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K
    Creasy 2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 4 K

    Muller 1-2, 2B, RBI, SF
    Unroe 1-1, HR (2nd), 2 RBI (PH)
    Pache 1-5, RBI
    Jenista 1-4, BB

    ADVANCED CLASS A

    Palm Beach 11, Florida 7
    6-run 8th

    SP: Kingham 6 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 7 K
    Hernandez 1 IP. 1 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 0 K
    LP: Hartman (0-5, BS) 0.2 IP, 3 H, 6 ER, 3 BB, 1 K
    White 0.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K

    Harris 2-4, 2 R, SB
    Delgado 3-6
    Alexander 1-5, R, SB
    Langhorne 4-5, 2B, R, 2 RBI (.187)
    Brown 2-5, 3 RBI
    Lugbauer 0-6, 4 K

    CLASS A

    Lexington 6, Rome 4 (10)

    SP: Olague 6 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 1 BB, 1 K
    Higginbotham 2 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K
    LP: Lawson (2-4) 2 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 2 K

    Shewmake 2-5, RBI, BB
    Dean 1-6, 3B, R
    Cullen 1-3, 2 RBI, 2 BB
    Vasquez 2-3, R, RBI

    SHORT-SEASON

    Danville 7, Burlington 1

    SP: DeVito 3 IP. 0 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 4 K
    WP: Williams (1-2) 1 IP, zeroes
    Volquez 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 1 K, 2 HBP
    Segal 2 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 2 K
    Camacho 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K

    Ball 1-2, HR (9th), 2 RBI, 2 BB, SF
    Mateja 2-5, HR (2nd), RBI
    Birdsong 3-5, R, RBI
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    GCL Braves 9, GCL Pirates 6

    SP: Dirks 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K
    Withrow 2 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 1 K (rehab)
    Polanco 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K
    WP: Javier (1-0) 3 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 3 K
    Caminero (Save, 1) 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K

    Grissom 2-3, 2 R, HR (2nd), RBI
    Florentino 3-5, R, RBI
    Zamora 2-3, 2 2B, 2 R, RBI
    Encarnacion 2-4, 2 RBI (debut)
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    DSL Braves 3, DSL Royals 2

    SP: Corona 6 IP, 4 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 6 K
    WP: Moreno (1-3) 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K
    Perez (Save, 1) 0.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K

    Pena 3-4, 2B, R
    Estrada 2-3, R, RBI
    Medina 1-4, 2 RBI
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    So according to this, Mississippi Trusmark Park is the #4 pitcher-friendly park in all of the minors. (Full season - 120 parks) Makes what Pache/Waters doing all that more impressive.

    Here are the top 5 ballparks in terms of runs per game at home:

    Reno (Pacific Coast)
    Albuquerque (Pacific Coast)
    Las Vegas (Pacific Coast)
    Charlotte (International)
    Lancaster (California)

    And the bottom five, from fewest runs to most.

    Jacksonville (Southern)
    Wilmington (Carolina)
    Lakeland (Florida State)
    Mississippi (Southern)
    Jupiter (Florida State)

    https://www.baseballamerica.com/stor...season-update/
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    A nice afternoon of baseball with three Braves' wins. Looks like Grissom might be putting things together for the GCL team.

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    Nice to see Jenista showing signs of life. I'm optimistic on him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    Nice to see Jenista showing signs of life. I'm optimistic on him.
    I don't know what Unroe's ceiling is, but he's been a nice surprise for that team as well. I don't know why the Braves felt that they had to push Jenista up, but he is showing some signs of positive adjustment.

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    Anyone have a scouting report on Kurt Hoekstra's stuff as a pitcher? First year as a full-time pitcher and he's bouncing between Florida and Gwinnett.

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    Gausman looking better each start and going longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Gausman looking better each start and going longer.
    But can he go as deep as Stroman
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    I have more faith in Gassman returning to form than Folty right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ball4life32 View Post
    So according to this, Mississippi Trusmark Park is the #4 pitcher-friendly park in all of the minors. (Full season - 120 parks) Makes what Pache/Waters doing all that more impressive.

    Here are the top 5 ballparks in terms of runs per game at home:

    Reno (Pacific Coast)
    Albuquerque (Pacific Coast)
    Las Vegas (Pacific Coast)
    Charlotte (International)
    Lancaster (California)

    And the bottom five, from fewest runs to most.

    Jacksonville (Southern)
    Wilmington (Carolina)
    Lakeland (Florida State)
    Mississippi (Southern)
    Jupiter (Florida State)

    https://www.baseballamerica.com/stor...season-update/
    It definitely makes the HR numbers for Pache more impressive, but I'd be curious to see what Mississippi's BABIPs look like compared to league average. Might explain a little bit of Waters' BABIP, though obviously at that level there's a lot of luck there no matter what.

    Regardless, this is why Pache is clearly the better prospect, IMO. I like Waters, but it's hard to tell how much of his season this year is smoke and mirrors.
    "Acuna is getting lucky, just like CJ did when he batted .321 and won a batting title. He is unlikely to get lucky at the MLB level over an extended period of time. He will settle in around .300-.320 just like everyone else, and when he does, he won't be within shouting distance of the 1.000 OPS he is posting in AAA...more like low .700s in 2018." -Enscheff 8/25/17

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    It definitely makes the HR numbers for Pache more impressive, but I'd be curious to see what Mississippi's BABIPs look like compared to league average. Might explain a little bit of Waters' BABIP, though obviously at that level there's a lot of luck there no matter what.

    Regardless, this is why Pache is clearly the better prospect, IMO. I like Waters, but it's hard to tell how much of his season this year is smoke and mirrors.
    But what about last season, and the season before that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    It definitely makes the HR numbers for Pache more impressive, but I'd be curious to see what Mississippi's BABIPs look like compared to league average. Might explain a little bit of Waters' BABIP, though obviously at that level there's a lot of luck there no matter what.

    Regardless, this is why Pache is clearly the better prospect, IMO. I like Waters, but it's hard to tell how much of his season this year is smoke and mirrors.
    Think Kiley just said scouts are split on whether Pache or Waters is the better prospect.

    I think one thing to consider on Waters is that he has a full year less of professional experience and more power projection. We're just a year removed from Pache having 0 professional home runs so we know that can change relatively quickly.

    I'm not sure there is a big gap between them. If Pache's acceleration is legit than maybe he's going to put himself in a different tier, but not difficult to see Waters catching and passing him in power while perhaps having a better hit tool.

    I'd probably be holding Waters just to see how it shook out. No need to rush on either of them unless the org has warning bells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    But what about last season, and the season before that?
    Last year he didn't K 27% of the time.
    "Acuna is getting lucky, just like CJ did when he batted .321 and won a batting title. He is unlikely to get lucky at the MLB level over an extended period of time. He will settle in around .300-.320 just like everyone else, and when he does, he won't be within shouting distance of the 1.000 OPS he is posting in AAA...more like low .700s in 2018." -Enscheff 8/25/17

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Think Kiley just said scouts are split on whether Pache or Waters is the better prospect.

    I think one thing to consider on Waters is that he has a full year less of professional experience and more power projection. We're just a year removed from Pache having 0 professional home runs so we know that can change relatively quickly.

    I'm not sure there is a big gap between them. If Pache's acceleration is legit than maybe he's going to put himself in a different tier, but not difficult to see Waters catching and passing him in power while perhaps having a better hit tool.

    I'd probably be holding Waters just to see how it shook out. No need to rush on either of them unless the org has warning bells.
    Waters may have more offensive potential, though right now I definitely like Pache's numbers more. But I don't think there's any question whose defense is better. Kiley knows more than I do, but I am having trouble seeing Waters at the same level as Pache.
    "Acuna is getting lucky, just like CJ did when he batted .321 and won a batting title. He is unlikely to get lucky at the MLB level over an extended period of time. He will settle in around .300-.320 just like everyone else, and when he does, he won't be within shouting distance of the 1.000 OPS he is posting in AAA...more like low .700s in 2018." -Enscheff 8/25/17

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    It definitely makes the HR numbers for Pache more impressive, but I'd be curious to see what Mississippi's BABIPs look like compared to league average. Might explain a little bit of Waters' BABIP, though obviously at that level there's a lot of luck there no matter what.

    Regardless, this is why Pache is clearly the better prospect, IMO. I like Waters, but it's hard to tell how much of his season this year is smoke and mirrors.
    I think pache is the better prospect bc he's supposed to be elite defensively and an above avg hitter to go with it. I think there's a good chance waters is a better hitter though in the end

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    But what about last season, and the season before that?
    It's just your typical three year run of BABIP luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    It's just your typical three year run of BABIP luck.
    i mean a .457 BABIP is a lot different than .360.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    i mean a .457 BABIP is a lot different than .360.
    It is. He has a career milb babip ~ .400 (it was barely over a week or so ago... not figuring it again). He won't maintain it, but I do think it will be higher than normal

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    It is. He has a career milb babip ~ .400 (it was barely over a week or so ago... not figuring it again). He won't maintain it, but I do think it will be higher than normal
    I keep feeling like a Benintendi type of player eventually. Not yet, as he was a college hitter with some experience but the hit tool should end up strong with good D. Maybe not 30 hr power, but likely 15-low 20's with all good tools across.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    i mean a .457 BABIP is a lot different than .360.
    Yeah, but his BABIP has been unusually strong since he was drafted. I kind of wonder if he's trying too hard for power this year, with both K rate and BABIP going up. Or if he's being overly selective on what he swings at. Pitch recognition has never seemed to be a problem for him.
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