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Thread: Braves acquire Chris Martin for Allard

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    Either that or the FO is really, really down on Allard.
    I think AA moved guys at the deadline he wasn't going to protect on the 40 man.

    His thought was get 1/2 a season of Martin or lose Allard for nothing in the rule 5.

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    i still couldn’t care less that Allard was dealt for Martin personally.
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    Martin was absolutely having the best season among the relievers we acquired, so it's likely that his market was pretty hot, driving up his price. Also, Allard was/is a 45 FV prospect. A 45 FV prospect for a rental reliever having a great season isn't exactly a huge overpay. And as previously stated, it seems Allard simply had fallen pecking order among our prospects. Making room on the 40 man was also a consideration as well.

    Seems like a big nothing burger we're discussing here. Allard's ceiling is pretty limited anyways. Maybe he reaches John Danks territory at his highest if he develops more. But more likely, he's another Paul Maholm/Chris Capuano type of pitcher if he can remain healthy. Durable 5th starters do have value, but it's something I would never really lament giving up. Much like I don't lament giving up Jason Marquis.


    Side note: It's nothing sort of amazing that Jason Marquis has 124 career wins and only 6.8 career bWAR (8.8 fWAR). For reference, Ted Lilly played over the same time frame as Marquis and had only 6 more wins while having over 20 more career WAR.

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    FG has lowered Allard’s FV from 45 to 40+. they don’t seem to be buying his SSS success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    FG has lowered Allard’s FV from 45 to 40+. they don’t seem to be buying his SSS success.

    Allard is the perfect guy to give up to improve your chances at a title. Martin wasn’t a know stud reliever. But I liked his addition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    i still couldn’t care less that Allard was dealt for Martin personally.
    I'm guessing it won't matter, but I still felt like he had more value than 3 months of a setup guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I'm guessing it won't matter, but I still felt like he had more value than 3 months of a setup guy.
    While I agree, I do think the mindset was to get an asset that could push this team further. Martin has been good and I think Allard will be solid, nothing more, it's a good gamble to take it you know Allard is not in the plans.

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    Well seeing as how it’s looking like Allard will pitch as many innings in the postseason as Martin will, doesn’t seem like a good trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzworm View Post
    Well seeing as how it’s looking like Allard will pitch as many innings in the postseason as Martin will, doesn’t seem like a good trade.
    the Braves FO really should've been able to predict this injury. true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    the Braves FO really should've been able to predict this injury. true.
    With more rest he would have been fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    the Braves FO really should've been able to predict this injury. true.

    John Edward was clearly available for advisement. AA really dropped the ball here. Too bad Miss Cleo wasn't available too (RIP).

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