Who are this year's deadline winners and losers for you?
I think us, the Astros, Indians, and the D'backs had very good deadlines. Marlins had a sneaky good deadline too.
Losers have to be the Yankees, Blue Jays, and Giants among a few other teams.
Who are this year's deadline winners and losers for you?
I think us, the Astros, Indians, and the D'backs had very good deadlines. Marlins had a sneaky good deadline too.
Losers have to be the Yankees, Blue Jays, and Giants among a few other teams.
I think the Padres and Braves were winners as well.
Mets were losers. Should have traded Wheeler, imo. Stroman just doesn't make sense for them.
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Dbacks and Indians did very well.
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jpx7 (07-31-2019)
Agreed. Overall, I think the Indians may have gotten the most value out of anyone else at the deadline. But that is mostly because I REALLY like Reyes in the American League. Dude has like 5 years of control and is a monster at the plate.Originally Posted by nsacpi
jpx7 (07-31-2019)
Agree for the most part.
Indians got a ****ing haul for 1.5 years of Bauer. 5 years of Reyes, Puig, Allen, and a few more players as well. Preller be better right about Trammel, because they gave up alot to get him.
Like what we did, would have liked a bat and a rotation piece, but upgraded the pen massively and didnt hurt the farm. Have all our top trade chips for this winter if someone we like becomes available.
Giants holding onto MadBum and Smith makes no sense. They could have gotten good returns for them. Jays didnt get much for the guys they dealt. Yankees not adding a starter is a huge L.
Astros getting Greinke clearly the deadline winner, Biagni/Sanchez sneaky good pickups as well. DBacks return for Greinke is good but it's not absurdly great.
Folks aren't taking into account the fact AA didn't address several of the glaring needs going into the deadline...
No LHP
No RHH OFer to platoon with Ender
No SP to push Fried/Gausman to the BP
I gave AA a C- in my breakdown post.
I'd give the Greene trade an A-, the Martin trade a solid B, and the Melancon trade a D. Overall I'd give the three trades an aggregate B-.
Arizona is the winner hands down. Not only did they get out from under an entire large and risky contract, they got 3 nice prospects to do it. Lots of other teams did well, but value wise no one else came close to them.
jpx7 (07-31-2019)
I dont know about that.
JB is a future RP, Beer is ok, and Martin has a 6 ERA coming off TJ. It's a good haul given his contract but it doesnt make their farm top 3 now or anything.
They also traded their top positional prospect with a ton of upside for a 45 FV pitching prospect who has had good MLB numbers in a small sample. Gallen has looked pretty good early in his career, but I don't like trading Jazz Chisholm for him. Chisholm has a chance to be a big time power bat with really solid defense. If he can figure out how to cut down on the strikeouts, I think the D'backs will really regret making that deal in the future.
Edit: But overall, I think they did really well in the Greinke trade. They got back a ton of assets for a guy with limited surplus value due to his contract, even though they are eating 24 million.
AA is committed to ending the First Round Exit Curse.
With the NL Central not looking that strong, we have a very solid chance to get to the NLCS this year.
Forever Fredi
Valid points, but we don't know what the price for such acquisitions were. I'm going to assume SP was incredibly expensive this deadline being that most of the best ones "available" didn't get traded.
I'm sure Folty factored into this decision as well. He could easily be that pitcher that shifts Fried to the pen, which would also eliminate the need for a lefty reliever also. And it apears that Riley isn't going anywhere at this point, so hopefully vs LHP we'll see more of the lineup we saw they other night with Riley, Duvall, and Acuna as the starting OF. Camrago could/should factor into that rotation as well.
jpx7 (08-01-2019)
All valid points, and I’m sure my take is partly jaded by my elevated testosterone levels wanting to see a bit more improvement. Not alpha level testosterone, but probably level 2...elderly jackrabbit.
Going to be hard for anyone to beat Houston at this point.
I will say, if Folty can get back on track, I like our chances. Our lineup stacks up well against anyone.
Right now we are all talking about the trades. But I think the most important developments of the past week are what we are seeing from Duvall and Inciarte.
I think we have more than a sluggers chance.
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bravesfanforlife88 (07-31-2019), jpx7 (08-01-2019)
If Duvall can bring decent power to the lineup and hit around .260 I consider that an upgrade... anything Ender brings to the plate is gravy (Bowman’s excited)
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Getting the ~2 WAR version of Duvall and the ~3 WAR version of Ender for the stretch run would be huge and better than any impact trade made yesterday minus Greinke. Now we just have to hope that Folty can somehow find his way.
Braves1976 (08-02-2019), jpx7 (08-01-2019)
If we get past the NLDS, I will consider that my world series victory. Anything else is just icing on cake.
I just wanna remember the feeling of seeing us play in a Best of 7 playoff series again. Last time it happened I was 11 years old.
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cajunrevenge (07-31-2019), jpx7 (08-01-2019), Mrs. Meta (08-01-2019)
On the plus side if we actually do make it to the world series I could go to a game.
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I think after this trade deadline, we are pretty solid favorites to make it to the NLCS. If we can pull that off, we have a solid ~30% shot to knock off the Dodgers in 7 games. Given our budget, I think that is about as good as you could hope for from year to year. We also have a small chance that the wild card team can knock off the Dodgers in 5, which would greatly increase our odds of making the World Series.
This doesn't feel like a World Series team, but all we need is a little bit of luck and we can get there for sure.
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