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    Quote Originally Posted by gcbraves View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
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    We've been saying that getting Folty or Gausman back to what we expect from them would be better than any realistic addition AA could have made at the deadline.

    His .345 xwOBA vs the Twins last night suggests he wasn't as good as the overall line suggests.

    For reference, Soroka posted an excellent .262 xwOBA on the 5th vs the same team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    We've been saying that getting Folty or Gausman back to what we expect from them would be better than any realistic addition AA could have made at the deadline.

    His .345 xwOBA vs the Twins last night suggests he wasn't as good as the overall line suggests.

    For reference, Soroka posted an excellent .262 xwOBA on the 5th vs the same team.
    Weird...Other than the 6th and the first batter, I don’t recall any hard hit balls off of him, and he struck out 7 over 5 which means he was missing bats. Only gave up 2 or 3 hits too.

    I find that hard to believe based on what I saw, but the 6th inning may be skewing the number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    We've been saying that getting Folty or Gausman back to what we expect from them would be better than any realistic addition AA could have made at the deadline.

    His .345 xwOBA vs the Twins last night suggests he wasn't as good as the overall line suggests.

    For reference, Soroka posted an excellent .262 xwOBA on the 5th vs the same team.
    I am hoping for gradual improvement from Folty. I am hoping he is still sorting out his mechanics and will improve from outing to outing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Weird...Other than the 6th and the first batter, I don’t recall any hard hit balls off of him, and he struck out 7 over 5 which means he was missing bats. Only gave up 2 or 3 hits too.

    I find that hard to believe based on what I saw, but the 6th inning may be skewing the number.
    The 6th was bad. His numbers through the 5th would be a lot better and what you would want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Weird...Other than the 6th and the first batter, I don’t recall any hard hit balls off of him, and he struck out 7 over 5 which means he was missing bats. Only gave up 2 or 3 hits too.

    I find that hard to believe based on what I saw, but the 6th inning may be skewing the number.
    Also, 3 runs over just 5 innings isn’t that great of a line. Soroka, I believe, pitched 7 innings. So, yeah, I’m pretty sure that 6th inning after the 45 minute layoff is skewing that number.

    I’d like to see his xWOBA for just innings 1-5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    The 6th was bad. His numbers through the 5th would be a lot better and what you would want.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    The 6th was bad. His numbers through the 5th would be a lot better and what you would want.
    my thought as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Weird...Other than the 6th and the first batter, I don’t recall any hard hit balls off of him, and he struck out 7 over 5 which means he was missing bats. Only gave up 2 or 3 hits too.

    I find that hard to believe based on what I saw, but the 6th inning may be skewing the number.
    Good point...

    xwOBA in the 6th: 1.061
    xwOBA from 1-5: .195

    So it looks like Snit once again left a SP in too long because he was "cruising". These types of mistakes can't be made in the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Good point...

    xwOBA in the 6th: 1.061
    xwOBA from 1-5: .195

    So it looks like Snit once again left a SP in too long because he was "cruising". These types of mistakes can't be made in the playoffs.
    I think most of us agree, that 30 minute top of the 6th probably hurt Folty's rhythm.

    I usually will attack Snit when it's warranted, but last night was not entirely his fault nor Folty's. We had a LONG half inning in the top of the 6th. And Folty was only at like 80 pitches to start the Bottom 6th.

    So yeah scheff, gonna have to disagree with you on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Good point...

    xwOBA in the 6th: 1.061
    xwOBA from 1-5: .195

    So it looks like Snit once again left a SP in too long because he was "cruising". These types of mistakes can't be made in the playoffs.
    to be fair..how was he supposed to know to take him out after 5? maybe he was hoping to leave him in to continue to find his stuff.
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    The third time through the order penalty doesn't care about pitch counts or lengths of half innings.

    These tactical mistakes can't be made in the playoffs.

    In a blowout regular season game it's fine, but I have a feeling the same decision would have been made in a close playoff game as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The third time through the order penalty doesn't care about pitch counts or lengths of half innings.

    These tactical mistakes can't be made in the playoffs.
    true; 3rd time thru the order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The third time through the order penalty doesn't care about pitch counts or lengths of half innings.

    These tactical mistakes can't be made in the playoffs.

    In a blowout regular season game it's fine, but I have a feeling the same decision would have been made in a close playoff game as well.
    He was pitching fine.

    Not like he's going to be sitting on the bench during long innings in NL games like he did here and in AAA (where they have DH I believe). If we weren't up 11-0 or whatever it was, then Snit probably has a shorter leash on him because it is folty.
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    I’m with Scheff. The playoffs are a different animal. The third time through the order with his pitch count approaching 100, you pull him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    I’m with Scheff. The playoffs are a different animal. The third time through the order with his pitch count approaching 100, you pull him.
    Snit (or the front office) had a pretty quick hook in the NLDS last year. He took Newk out after a few innings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Individual-1 View Post
    Snit (or the front office) had a pretty quick hook in the NLDS last year. He took Newk out after a few innings.
    Same with Folty in game 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    I’m with Scheff. The playoffs are a different animal. The third time through the order with his pitch count approaching 100, you pull him.
    If you have a capable hand to pull him for?
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