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    Our New Relievers

    BABIP w/ Braves

    Greene- .636
    Melancon- .500
    Martin- .400

    I've never seen anything like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    BABIP w/ Braves

    Greene- .636
    Melancon- .500
    Martin- .400

    I've never seen anything like this.
    Is this bad?

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    When you throw meat balls, they tend to get hit like a howitzer

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    I really don’t think Greene is very good. Martin and Melancon will be fine.

    It was just a perfect storm of ****ery tonight. It happens, just usually not against the worst team in the league. To be fair, as sketchy as our pen has been this year, we really have not had this happen too often this season. We have a pretty good record when leading after 7/8. Guess we were due. Baseball is weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleBrave View Post
    When you throw meat balls, they tend to get hit like a howitzer
    That's not how that works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    That's not how that works.

    Sure it can.


    But that’s a joke. in this case, they’ve been dinked and dunked a lot.

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    Whats the pens ERA after the deadline, 15?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravesfan View Post
    Whats the pens ERA after the deadline, 15?
    12.27 for just these three guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleBrave View Post
    Sure it can.


    But that’s a joke. in this case, they’ve been dinked and dunked a lot.
    They have. The bad luck has been mind boggling.

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    two words

    small samples
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Like the ball that was hit past Charlie was a good pitch, He just slapped it the other way where Culberson wasn’t

    My only worry is Martin may still be hurt. They aren’t overly wild. Also has to be some human element to changing leagues and teams

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    they are all decent but not great relievers who will help us

    based on the data before they joined the braves and what I've seen since they joined I will say imo martin > melancon > greene

    But all 3 fall in the category of decent useful but not great relievers
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    they are all decent but not great relievers who will help us

    based on the data before they joined the braves and what I've seen since they joined I will say imo martin > melancon > greene

    But all 3 fall in the category of decent useful but not great relievers

    I'd agree with the order, and say I'd expect ERAs around 3.3-3.5 for Martin, 3.8-4.0 for Melancon, and 4.2+ for Greene. The problem being that makes the best of those a roleplayer, not a vital cog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    I'd agree with the order, and say I'd expect ERAs around 3.3-3.5 for Martin, 3.8-4.0 for Melancon, and 4.2+ for Greene. The problem being that makes the best of those a roleplayer, not a vital cog.
    It remains an open question who our best relievers will be come September and October...could be guys like Webb and Sobotka...but there was little doubt we needed to add to the pool of available options...it would have been nice to get Vazquez but he wasnt available at a reasonable price
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    It's actually sort of impressive just how many of the relievers we counted on in the off-season/brought in during the season have fallen on their faces.

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    I am not blaming twit here. But he is using them very oddly to me. We are seeing guys being used in 4-5 and even more fun leads. Belvins. Weigel and others are not being utilized enough. Tomorrow basically we have Newk. Weigel. Tomlin. Blevins. I would tell the three stooges to stay at the hotel.
    Coppy

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    This will not continue. Hitters have been finding holes against our pen at historic rates. It's going to turn around very soon.

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    The new additions have been bad but let’s not gloss over the fact everyone has been awful including Luke and Newk since the all star break.
    I think we will be ok and just as we were due to regress to the bad pre all star break, we are due to go the other way soon.
    I’m more concerned about our mangers ability to properly use the pen then the pieces in it.

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    500 stole my thunder, I was going to post that.

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    Hey all. I'm just having fun. It will all play out like Enscheff said.

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