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Thread: GDT 8/22/19: The Final Fish Fry of 2019

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzie Swanson View Post
    What are you talking about? Anderson has a cannon. Hamilton wouldn't have scored from second on that fly ball.
    What fly ball? He stole home when Ortega was up.

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    Hopefully Hech. can keep hitting against his old team the Mets, I haven't seen him hit this much even for short periods in years. Not since a few hot streaks he had in Miami. Good for him and the Braves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tululush View Post
    Or after Ortega failed to move him to third, you could have had him steal 3rd and then Charlie’s fly ball wins it.
    I’m not trying to be an asshole, but trying to steal 3rd with the winning run, even with Hamilton, would be completely idiotic. Hech is fast enough that he’s going to score from 2nd on just about any hit. Pinch-running for him there makes no sense.

    Now, if he was on 1st base as the winning run, I might be able to see it.

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    Not enough of a delta between Hecher and Hamilton with a short bench. Maybe with expanded rosters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    lol, you are full of **** and need to stick to doing the weather.
    He's not the fastest guy in baseball anymore... statcast shows he's more around the 10th-15th fastest guy... right around Acuna's speed. He's very fast, but his speed is not exceptional anymore whether you want to believe it or not... stick to doing whatever the hell pointless job you do please... because your job is obviously not understanding basic comprehension.

    In fact, Hamilton comes in at 16th place in the majors with a 29.5 ft/sec sprint speed

    Acuna is second fastest on the team at 29.3 ft/sec good for 31st in the league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    I’m not trying to be an asshole, but trying to steal 3rd with the winning run, even with Hamilton, would be completely idiotic. Hech is fast enough that he’s going to score from 2nd on just about any hit. Pinch-running for him there makes no sense.

    Now, if he was on 1st base as the winning run, I might be able to see it.
    You don't need to steal, just bunt Hamilton to third and Charlie's fly ball wins it. That is asking less than having to get a hit. Plus outside of the GS Ortega hasn't been able to buy a hit even when he hits it on a line. The Royals won a world series using the speedy players the right way. If you don't see using Hamilton that way come playoff time then I wouldn't want you managing my team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    You don't need to steal, just bunt Hamilton to third and Charlie's fly ball wins it. That is asking less than having to get a hit. Plus outside of the GS Ortega hasn't been able to buy a hit even when he hits it on a line. The Royals won a world series using the speedy players the right way. If you don't see using Hamilton that way come playoff time then I wouldn't want you managing my team.
    Hech would have scored on that same fly ball. So, what’s the point of pinch-running Hamilton?

    Don’t worry, I have about as much chance of managing a team as you do.

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    There were very few scenarios where Hamilton's speed would have made a difference over Hecheverria in that situation. It's not like Hech wouldn't have scored on most singles. If he was on first it could have worked, but I wouldn't. Hech is decent baserunner. However if the game had continued, there was a fair chance that we might regret unnecessarily burning a position player. Heck stealing third would be no guarantee for Hamilton especially considering that everyone in the ballpark would have known he was thinking about it. He might have gotten thrown out and taken the bat out of Acuna's hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    You don't need to steal, just bunt Hamilton to third and Charlie's fly ball wins it. That is asking less than having to get a hit. Plus outside of the GS Ortega hasn't been able to buy a hit even when he hits it on a line. The Royals won a world series using the speedy players the right way. If you don't see using Hamilton that way come playoff time then I wouldn't want you managing my team.
    You are also making an assumption that we could get an effective bunt down like it’s automatic or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulavol View Post
    Interesting theory...


    https://www.ajc.com/blog/mark-bradle...PZVDJLx9yFgJ/#

    And Nats fans bitching about this too:
    "We get nice and freaked tomorrow specifically because we're playing the Cubs and MLB bows down to them:

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    Beginning with the 2018 championship season, no Club shall be scheduled or rescheduled to start a game prior to 5 P.M. when one of the Clubs played a game the prior evening in a different city with a start time of 7 P.M. or later, except as follows...

    up to six instances per season where the traveling Club is traveling to Chicago to play the Cubs and the in-flight time does not exceed 2.5 hours.

    Cool rule MLB. We'll be lucky to get into the hotel at 2 a.m. and have to be at the ballpark by 930/10 AM while the Cubs are rested and ready to go. Love when the league intentionally allows the Cubs to have an advantage."
    To hell with them I hope pitt beats their ass in a 16 inning marathon and then the Cubbies sweep 'em away.

    Call it karma for that 25 million secret loan they got a few years ago when their payroll was north of 160 million. Why wasnt this publicly announced instead of a beat writer figuring it out mid season? So they can **** off.
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    Looks like we have a new poster who has stepped into the role of wannabe expert.

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    Ronald on pace for 6.3 fWAR. Doing so would make him just the 21st person to have over 10 WAR through their age 21 season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Looks like we have a new poster who has stepped into the role of wannabe expert.
    There can be only one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    There can be only one.
    And no one is taking my place. I challenge new expert to an expertnessing test!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    He's not the fastest guy in baseball anymore... statcast shows he's more around the 10th-15th fastest guy... right around Acuna's speed. He's very fast, but his speed is not exceptional anymore whether you want to believe it or not... stick to doing whatever the hell pointless job you do please... because your job is obviously not understanding basic comprehension.
    lol, you're the only one that is trying to make this into a debate about who's the fastest in MLB. I never made such a claim, I even noted that he was right around Acuna's speed in a post before you while also noting that Hech. has MLB average speed. So who's not understanding basic comprehension? You need a mirror!

    That said, Acuna is also very fast and someone you could use as I suggested if not starting. But since he is a starter he's not an option, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Hech would have scored on that same fly ball. So, what’s the point of pinch-running Hamilton?

    Don’t worry, I have about as much chance of managing a team as you do.
    The point was giving your team the best chance to score without a hit. Yes, Hech. scores on that fly ball if at third. But maybe Ortega's bunt is so-so and they nail Hech. at third. That is possible as he only has average speed. Hamilton running makes that very unlikely. Plus a number of us suggested Hamilton, including nsacpi, before we knew Flowers would walk too. I thought maybe he hits a grounder to someone, Hamilton could score on it breaking on contact. Plus Charlie could've hit a shallow fly ball and got Hamilton in whereas average speed Hech. tags but cannot go. So again, just giving your team the best shot at scoring as you will have to do in the playoffs.

    Also, those that said no you cannot lose Hech. from the game. Well, worst case you were pinch hitting Charlie anyway so he could stay in and play short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    You are also making an assumption that we could get an effective bunt down like it’s automatic or something.
    lol, you are a riot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    lol, you are a riot.
    And you aren’t very smart... so cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    And you aren’t very smart... so cool
    lol, thanks for the laughs. It is funny when some arrogant dumbass tries to argue as you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braves1976 View Post
    lol, thanks for the laughs. It is funny when some arrogant dumbass tries to argue as you do.
    You mean with basic logical facts?

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