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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I'm asking you a very simple question.

    What would happen if I didnt comply with a confiscation of my property?
    heck if I know...but I doubt you would be shot...but hey Ruby Ridge and Waco
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    legit? 6 is legit only in the so what sense...you can't drive a certain type of car already (regulations on safety and emissions)...ditto for planes...what exactly it is you found so alarming from such restrictions completely escapes me
    Hey... I'm not the one saying we need to outlaw planes in place trains (that use no carbon emissions by the way).

    That's the dozen presidential candidates who endorsed the GND

    I agree it sounds insane. But I'm not the one suggesting it. I'm just listening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    heck if I know...but I doubt you would be shot...but hey Ruby Ridge and Waco
    I dont think you're doing a good job explaining paranoia here.

    The way I see it there would be three options.

    They arrest me.

    They leave and dont take my property.

    They shoot me bc I wont comply

    Maybe I'm missing one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I dont think you're doing a good job explaining paranoia here.
    ok
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Maybe you're suggesting that cops dont shoot people when they dont comply or stand their ground.

    Boy, do I have some news for you...

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    By the way... would love to hear how "the world isn't going to end in 12 years" is the paranoid take... and the hysterical child who is fearful of living life on this planet is the rational one

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    By the way... would love to hear how "the world isn't going to end in 12 years" is the paranoid take... and the hysterical child who is fearful of living life on this planet is the rational one
    Were climate alarmists paranoid in retrospect from the 90s? Now we shoul absolutely believe them.
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    Climate Change Is Already Killing Us

    How Our Warmer and Wetter Planet Is Getting Sicker and Deadlier by the Day

    By Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus September 23, 2019








    Women are treated for respiratory problems at a hospital in New Delhi, November 2018

    As world leaders gather on Monday for the Climate Action Summit at the UN General Assembly, it is sadly clear that the prospect of rising global temperatures and sea levels has failed to generate a sufficient sense of urgency around climate change. What might spur leaders to action, if it were better understood, is the enormous threat that climate change already poses to human health.

    Climate change exacerbates chronic and contagious disease, worsens food and water shortages, increases the risk of pandemics, and aggravates mass displacement. The broad environmental effects of climate change have long been discussed as long-term risks; what’s clear now is that the health effects are worse than anticipated—and that they’re already being felt.

    CLIMATE ILLS

    The dangerous health effects of climate change begin with the emissions that cause it. Black carbon, methane, and nitrogen oxides are powerful drivers of global warming, and, along with other air pollutants such as carbon monoxide and ozone, they are responsible for over seven million deaths each year, about one in eight worldwide. The problem extends beyond cities with famously poor air quality, such as New Delhi, Beijing, and São Paulo. Ninety percent of the world’s urban dwellers breathe air containing unsafe pollution levels, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).


    The dangers start at the beginning of life. Toxic pollutants cross the placenta, increasing the risk of preterm birth and low birth weight, which can cause lifelong damage to multiple organ systems. Children breathe more rapidly than adults do, so they absorb more pollutants at a time when their developing organs are more vulnerable. As a result, air pollution causes an estimated 600,000 deaths each year in children under five, mostly from pneumonia. There is also emerging evidence that air pollution compromises children’s cognitive development and can increase their risk of behavioral disorders.

    In adults, pollution contributes to a wide range of respiratory and circulatory diseases, and may accelerate cognitive decline in seniors. Most air-pollution-related deaths are due to heart attacks and strokes, but ambient air pollution also accounts for a significant number of pneumonia, asthma, emphysema, and lung cancer deaths.

    In addition to air pollution, emissions are responsible for rising global temperatures. These in turn lead to increased humidity and cause more frequent and intense heat waves that worsen hypertension and mental health problems, and can limit the effectiveness of certain medications. When a person’s body temperature rises to 104 degrees Fahrenheit or above, systematic organ failure occurs. Heat waves this summer killed 1,435 people in France alone, the only country to have published statistics on heat-related deaths. As many of the world’s major population centers grow hotter and more humid, more people will die from simply overheating.

    Climate change also compounds the threat of communicable diseases. Increased rainfall and higher temperatures favor vector-borne diseases—those caused by parasites, viruses, and bacteria transmitted by mosquitoes, ticks, flies, and fleas. Cold-blooded insects generally prefer warmer temperatures, which not only extend their breeding seasons but accelerate their geographical expansion.

    As man-made climate change has taken hold over the last four decades, dozens of new infectious diseases have emerged or begun to threaten new regions, including Zika and Ebola.

    The mosquito is already the deadliest animal in the world, causing more than half a million deaths each year—438,000 of them from malaria. Warmer temperatures make it easier to transmit malaria at higher altitudes, and may cause it to spread farther into African highlands.

    Another virus likely to spread as a result of climate change is dengue, which currently infects 96 million people each year and kills 90,000 of them. Dengue virus is transmitted by two species of mosquito—Aedes aegypti and Aedes albopictus—that are unusually tough and also transmit yellow fever, Zika, West Nile, and other viruses. More than half the world’s population lives in areas where an Aedes species is already present—and that proportion is likely to grow. A. aegypti in particular thrives not only in warm and moist environments but in drought-prone ones, too. Europe, North America, and high-elevation areas in the tropics may soon have to contend with dengue as well as other emerging diseases.

    The steady swarm of Aedes into new regions points to the single biggest threat of all: pandemic disease. As man-made climate change has taken hold over the last four decades, dozens of new infectious diseases have emerged or begun to threaten new regions, including Zika and Ebola. Cholera is also becoming more difficult to control: warm, brackish waters and rising sea levels help spread the disease, which infects about four million people each year and kills about 100,000 of them. Bubonic plague, spread by rats and fleas, is predicted to increase with warmer springs and wetter summers. Anthrax, whose spores are released by thawing permafrost, could spread farther as a result of stronger winds.

    And those are just the direct health effects of climate change. Rising sea levels and increased ocean acidification will reduce fishing and aquaculture, aggravating malnutrition and food insecurity. Contamination of aquifers will exacerbate water shortages. Droughts, which already kill and displace more people than any other type of weather catastrophe, are predicted to grow longer and more frequent. The World Bank estimates that by 2050, there could be one billion climate refugees from sub-Saharan Africa, South Asia, and Latin America.

    A HEALTHY RESPONSE

    Extreme weather also disrupts public health infrastructure and services. That is why it is imperative that countries around the world invest in adapting health-care systems to the environmental changes already underway and likely to follow. At the first high-level meeting on Universal Health Coverage (UHC) at the United Nations, the WHO will call on world leaders to invest not only in safe water, hygiene, and sanitation services but also in universal access to health services for chronic disease, child health, and antenatal and palliative care. Almost every disease caused or aggravated by climate change can be prevented or treated if addressed early. Unfortunately, the WHO projects that by 2030, 42 percent of the world’s population will either not have access to health services or not be able to afford them.

    Universal health coverage includes screening and accurate and timely diagnostics. It also includes surveillance and rapid response to emerging global health threats. The world has tended to fight such threats one disease at a time—whether it is smallpox, polio, TB, HIV/AIDS, or malaria—and to adopt a firefighting approach when a deadly pandemic such as Ebola emerges. Taking on the whole range of global health threats at once by implementing universal health coverage by 2030 is not only the best way to prepare for inevitable climate-related catastrophes; it will also prevent up to one billion deaths from communicable disease, according to the WHO.

    As world leaders gather in New York to address climate change, they should remember the threat that it poses to human health and act decisively to implement universal health coverage
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    I guess if the boys are still alive it isn't happening ?
    We have no more Dogwoods in S Georgia due to rising temperatures

    Africa,Asia and Central America are already feeling the effects and suffering human toll
    the clear cutting of the Amazon rain forest - to satisfy the need for more Big Macs

    This really isn't complicated, but requires one looking past one's nose
    or at least a layman's knowledge of how our Eco-systems function

    Guess if it doesn't put money in their pockets, they dont care.
    Isn't that what the Swedish girl said yesterday
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Were climate alarmists paranoid in retrospect from the 90s? Now we shoul absolutely believe them.
    Actually some of the things projected in the 90's are happening
    You can go look it up
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Actually some of the things projected in the 90's are happening
    You can go look it up
    Like expanding ice sheets?

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    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...ist-harassment

    But it’s not just Greta. Other young girls in the movement are facing a flood of online abuse. It’s less clear where those attacks are coming from, but they involve a mix of regular accounts, trolls, and bots. While the youngest activists are often shielded from this, due to constant monitoring of their social media by their parents, there’s no filter for many of the teens. Jamie Margolin, a 17-year-old climate activist in Seattle, described how it felt experiencing a recent Twitter swarm: “You start getting so much anxiety.”
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    So the president threatens civil war if we hold him accountable for his crimes
    "For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    So the president threatens civil war if we hold him accountable for his crimes
    Yup....threatened. ORANGE MAN BAD

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Yup....threatened. ORANGE MAN BAD
    this seems like an appropriate response for this thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    this seems like an appropriate response for this thread
    Real bad
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    To be fair... She DEFINITELY deserved that response! Thank goodness for the truly tolerant ones


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    "For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman

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    I love that this bothers you but you eagerly dismiss actual real physical violence.

    Carry on

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