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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippyjms View Post
    Ender has truly been one of those “You don’t know what you got till it’s gone” players this year.

    That really sunk in for a lot of people here who wanted him gone when Riley had his hot streak. Once those K's started racking up and Riley went from hitting a homer every other night to every few weeks it got quiet fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippyjms View Post
    Ender has truly been one of those “You don’t know what you got till it’s gone” players this year.
    I dunno if I'd go that far - he was beyond awful in the first half, posting an OPS+ of 68 in the 40 pre-ASB games he played in. He was great when he returned, but who knows if that's the guy that we get back

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Ender is sorely missed on this team right now.
    Ender and Neck are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freshmaker View Post
    I dunno if I'd go that far - he was beyond awful in the first half, posting an OPS+ of 68 in the 40 pre-ASB games he played in. He was great when he returned, but who knows if that's the guy that we get back
    He's always a second half player tbh, offensively speaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chosen One View Post
    He's always a second half player tbh, offensively speaking.
    True - that's his MO. Hopefully he starts off hot when he returns

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chosen One View Post
    That really sunk in for a lot of people here who wanted him gone when Riley had his hot streak. Once those K's started racking up and Riley went from hitting a homer every other night to every few weeks it got quiet fast.
    I’ll admit to being one of those people but I will say my concern at that time was Ender’s back and how effective he would be going forward. Worst case I figured Pache could take over.

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    Bowman now saying that Neck will play in some simulated games next week, and might be activated next weekend

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    Did we ever get that update on Donaldson’s suspension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Did we ever get that update on Donaldson’s suspension?
    He’ll serve his suspension in the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freshmaker View Post
    Bowman now saying that Neck will play in some simulated games next week, and might be activated next weekend
    Do you mean Neckst weekend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    He’ll serve his suspension in the playoffs.
    Genius move by Snit. We all know playoff stats don’t count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freshmaker View Post
    I dunno if I'd go that far - he was beyond awful in the first half, posting an OPS+ of 68 in the 40 pre-ASB games he played in. He was great when he returned, but who knows if that's the guy that we get back
    He wasn't healthy then. It was clear looking at his batting profile and sprint speed numbers. Something was off. He's still a ~3 WAR player and the 2nd best OF on the team.

    That said we can hope that at least one of Neck/Ender are healthy enough to start in the playoffs. Either one with Joyce and Acuna in the OF makes the lineup a lot better with a righty on the mound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Genius move by Snit. We all know playoff stats don’t count.
    I meant figuratively, not literally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freshmaker View Post
    I dunno if I'd go that far - he was beyond awful in the first half, posting an OPS+ of 68 in the 40 pre-ASB games he played in. He was great when he returned, but who knows if that's the guy that we get back
    As I demonstrated right before he hit the DL, Ender was most likely playing hurt almost the entire first half. I showed how poor his sprint speed and exit velocity numbers were, which strongly suggested injury.

    Healthy Ender is the 2nd best OFer in the organization, even if he should have his PAs vs LHP limited.

    I have no idea why Riley is in vs a RHP, but maybe the hope is he figures something out now that the division is all but sealed up
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chosen One View Post
    That really sunk in for a lot of people here who wanted him gone when Riley had his hot streak. Once those K's started racking up and Riley went from hitting a homer every other night to every few weeks it got quiet fast.
    Yes, the less informed fans were once again fooled by an unsustainable performance and weren’t paying attention when I proved Ender was paying hurt and predicted he would rebound nicely once healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    As I demonstrated right before he hit the DL, Ender was most likely playing hurt almost the entire first half. I showed how poor his sprint speed and exit velocity numbers were, which strongly suggested injury.

    Healthy Ender is the 2nd best OFer in the organization, even if he should have his PAs vs LHP limited.

    I have no idea why Riley is in vs a RHP, but maybe the hope is he figures something out now that the division is all but sealed up
    Sure, he could've been. If he was for the majority of the first half though, that's either on him for not being forthright with the coaching staff, or on the coaching staff for continuing to play him even while knowing he was hurt, In terms of simple OPS he wasn't very far off from career norms - he's a career .660 OPSer in the first half and was at .631 this year. In reality he's not nearly as good at the plate as he showed when he returned - he has a great .801 OPS post-ASB in his career, but was an otherworldly .931 in the 3 weeks after he came back. Regardless, I'll gladly take an .800 OPS Ender for the playoffs - that would be wonderful.

    And yeah, Riley is just getting an opportunity to prove he belongs on the postseason roster since we have a playoff spot all but locked up at this point. His defensive versatility would be nice since he can play 3 spots reasonably well. He just needs to prove he can hit more than down the middle fastballs

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    Baseball logic dictates that the Braves will get shut down by Voth tonight.

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