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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeman View Post
    It's funny that Allard for Martin seemed to be the best of the deals and now it seems the worst. We will have way overpaid if he becomes a backend starter, but we have plenty of backend starters. Really I bet what AA is trying to avoid is to not trade off a current starter prospect that could later be a valuable bullpen piece. It was hard to see how Allard would every help much in the bullpen. Same with Wentz.

    If you look at all the pitchers we've dumped in the last few years, we could have used John Gant the most this year. The pitcher that seems to now be falling in that same category is Touki.
    Big step back this season. I thought he could develop into a shut-down bullpen guy, but he seems to be a guy that needs an inning to settle in. Still has lots of sizzle to his game.

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