Prospects become currency

[rico43]

Just out of curiosity, I checked the stats of all the prospects who have been dealt. The news about Allard was my push to look.

Since traded,

Kolby Allard (TEX) 6 games, all starts: 4-0, 3.78, 33 IP, 35 H, 11 BB, 29 K
Joey Wentz (Erie, Det. Class AA): 5 games, 5 starts, 2-0, 2.10, 26 IP, 20 H, 4 H, 37 K
Travis Demeritte (DET) 34 G, 121 AB, .231, 28 H, 4 2B, 2 3B, 2 HR, 8 RBI, 3 SB, 47 K (played OF exclusive)
Tristan Beck (SF, Class A San Jose) 6 G, 6 starts, 3-2, 2.27, 36 IP, 33 H, 13 BB, 37 K
Dan Winkler (SF, Class AAA Sacramento) 12 games, 0 starts, 0-1, 0 saves, 14 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 5 BB, 9 K

[bravesfanMatt]

Basically this tells me that we are so good even our cast offs are elite.

[Carp]

Demeritte has been pretty horrid both offensively and defensively. Hope he turns it around.

Glad we didn't depend on him being a late season contributor like I suggested a few months ago.

[50PoundHead]

The one I really laugh about is Beck. He was simply terrible in the Braves' system. Some of that may relate to recovery issues and it is a small sample. I doubt it has anything to do with getting back to California, but whatever it is, he's pitched much better since joining the Giants' system.

We may regret trading Wentz. Allard probably settles in as a back of the rotation guy, but I think Wentz could be more than that. Winkler and Demeritte are probably AAAA guys.

[Carp]

I've always maintained, even after his terrible debuut, that I thought Allard would still make it as back of the rotation starter if nothing else. The improved velocity he has shown this year gives him a better ceiling. Randy Wolf as the ceiling and Chris Capuano as the floor.

[50PoundHead]

I've always maintained, even after his terrible debuut, that I thought Allard would still make it as back of the rotation starter if nothing else. The improved velocity he has shown this year gives him a better ceiling. Randy Wolf as the ceiling and Chris Capuano as the floor.

And there is value there. Both of those guys hung around for more than a decade. Hitting and pitching approaches have changed since those two played, which makes one wonder if they would have been as effective in the game as it is played now, but if Allard can spot his fastball and strengthen his secondary stuff, I think he can have some measure of success.

[Jaw]

We may regret trading Wentz. Allard probably settles in as a back of the rotation guy, but I think Wentz could be more than that. Winkler and Demeritte are probably AAAA guys.

I expected and dreaded the Wentz trade. He was my favorite of this year's pitching prospects. I recognized that I was an outlier there and he would likely be dealt. He has a presence on the mound that I haven't seen from any other pitcher I've watched in minors. I know the odds are terrible but I'll be stunned if he isn't an average or better starting pitcher in MLB.

[Jay212033]

This is the issue with Allard: https://www.fangraphs.com/graphs.asp...FA&ymin=&ymax=

With the Braves he was 89-90 on the heater, with the Rangers he is 92-93.

There is a big difference between 90 Allard and 93 Allard. What happened?

There isn't statcast in the minors but I saw Allard pitch before he was traded and I saw an uptick on his overall stuff. I was thinking it was a juiced stadium gun until the guy sitting 2 rows down gun showed 94.

I personally wanted to keep Allard and give him more of a chance to try to build more value with the Braves.