Shanks Follows Up On His Heyward Article

[Knucksie]

Who cares about going to the playoffs?

That's kind of the point, isn't it? With the wildcard, it's become such a crapshoot. The sense is that once you get there, anything can happen. That's how it went down with the Cards, their last 2 world championships. It's how it was with the Red Sox and even the Marlins.

[Gary82]

I do take some solace knowing that JD Drew put up his best year with us. Maybe it was because Marcus Giles kept bullying him.

[jpx7]

I do take some solace knowing that JD Drew put up his best year with us. Maybe it was because Marcus Giles kept bullying him.

Don't forget Chipper!

[Runnin]

Advice for Bill Shanks - When you find yourself in a hole, a hole of your own making, stop digging.

[elmonthc]

Bill shanks doesnt care about black people.

Im surprised he didnt say he wants to apologize to jason over some fried chicked, watermelon, qnd a 40 of st. ides.

[AUTiger7222]

I'm not disagreeing with the general assertion that Billy Beane has not been as good a GM as John Schuerholz was; however, on the balance, he's been pretty good, regardless of a few recent seasons of mediocrity.

Moreover: you said the A's had only made the playoffs "three or four times" in his tenure, which is patently false and definitely obscures the very good job he did early in his career (not to mention the fact that the organization seems to be on the upswing again after that stretch of down-years on which you're focusing).

I was wrong about how many times they had made the playoffs. I was guessing off the top of my head. 4 is only 2 less than 6. It wasn't like my guess was so far off I was trolling or something.

[AUTiger7222]

That's literally the point of each and every season.



There was no reason to suspect, at the time, that Wainwright was destined for such greatness; he posted good, but not phenomenal, minor-league numbers with very good, but not phenomenal, stuff. Furthermore, as Meta said, it isn't unreasonable to wonder whether Wainwright would have ever reached his current echelon without the intervening tutelage of Dave Duncan.



The streak was damn awesome, and – as Braves fan – I am still proud of it.

People need to also not forget the influence that Chris Carpenter had on Wainwright's development with both of them being very similar pitchers. Both tall, lean right handed pitchers with power curveballs. There was no pitcher on the Braves at the time that could have given Wainwright the same kind of influence.

[Gary82]

Bill shanks doesnt care about black people.

Im surprised he didnt say he wants to apologize to jason over some fried chicked, watermelon, qnd a 40 of st. ides.

He basically said Hank Aaron was lazy.

[Julio3000]

He basically said Hank Aaron was lazy.

Wha?

[weso1]

People need to also not forget the influence that Chris Carpenter had on Wainwright's development with both of them being very similar pitchers. Both tall, lean right handed pitchers with power curveballs. There was no pitcher on the Braves at the time that could have given Wainwright the same kind of influence.

Ben Sheets

[weso1]

I feel like when Jason Heyward is hitting well, he's one of the best players in baseball.

When Francouer is hitting well it's a miracle.

[AUTiger7222]

Ben Sheets

Ben Sheets only pitched for the Braves last year. Sheets was pitching for the Brewers in the mid 2000s when Wainwright was coming up. The Braves didn't have a similar pitcher to Wainwright at the time that could have helped him in his development.

[weso1]

That was last year? Seems like forever ago.

[AUTiger7222]

That was last year? Seems like forever ago.

I had to think if it was last year or 2011 but it was last year.

[The Chosen One]

Was last year.

Sheets started the last game of the regular season and pitched 1 inning and cried in the dugout.

Chipper got his last hit off of Burnett.

[Gary82]

Wha?

http://braves.scout.com/2/793854.html


Aaron claims he had a larger role in getting Chipper to sign with us. Now I don't really care too much about Bill's criticism of that, but then he goes off and attacks Aaron.

But again, what has Aaron done to earn a paycheck from the Atlanta Braves over the past eighteen years?

[Julio3000]

He basically said Hank Aaron was lazy.

Adam LaRoche loafs while he's supposed to be covering first, costing runs = ADD
Jason Heyward is not Chipper Jones = must not be trying hard enough.

[Gary82]

BillShanks @BillShanks

@skinnyswag16 --- Again, I wrote that I would LISTEN to an offer. What's wrong with listening? I have doubts if Heyward even loves baseball.
11:14 AM - 4 Nov 2011

[BremanFan88]

BillShanks @BillShanks

@skinnyswag16 --- Again, I wrote that I would LISTEN to an offer. What's wrong with listening? I have doubts if Heyward even loves baseball.
11:14 AM - 4 Nov 2011

Still funny.

[Julio3000]

http://braves.scout.com/2/793854.html


Aaron claims he had a larger role in getting Chipper to sign with us. Now I don't really care too much about Bill's criticism of that, but then he goes off and attacks Aaron.

The only thing I'm certain about is that Hank Aaron has spent a lifetime crapping bigger than Bill Shanks.