Old People and Computers

[zitothebrave]

I don't mean for this to be offensive to the folks here to whom it may offend. But all old people should have Chromebooks and that's it.

Just yesterday I formatted and reinstalled Windows for my parents. I found in under a day (we're talking less than like 12 hours) 2 programs that downloaded that were malware and 1300 files picked up by MalwareBytes including busted registries and more. All in that short period of time.

Whomever taught old people about internet porn also sucks as my dad seemingly on his own amassed 150 megs of cache and cookies.

[The Chosen One]

Like father like son.

[zitothebrave]

I don't have a cache problem! All my porn is flash

[Hawk]

I bought my grandfather a Chromebook earlier this year. He loves it (although it does not print), however I suspect he is one of the few geriatrics that could handle a more powerful piece of machinery.

MacOS is even easier to navigate than Chrome, IMO.

[zitothebrave]

I don't think Mac OS is easier. And me wanting to get my parents Chromebook because it's almost impossible to get junk programs and malware. Mac is ahrd but still possible. Macs are also wicked expensive and my parents are wicked cheap. Maybe next year for Christmas I'll buy them a Mac Mini but considering my dad is bitching about upgrading from XP to Vista I think a jump to Mac OS may cause him to explode.

[jpx7]

Oops: read this as Old People in Computers. Carry on.

[Metaphysicist]

I don't think Mac OS is easier.

Finally, an Apple product Zito doesn't love.

[57Brave]

I don't mean for this to be offensive to the folks here to whom it may offend. But all old people should have Chromebooks and that's it.

Just yesterday I formatted and reinstalled Windows for my parents. I found in under a day (we're talking less than like 12 hours) 2 programs that downloaded that were malware and 1300 files picked up by MalwareBytes including busted registries and more. All in that short period of time.

Whomever taught old people about internet porn also sucks as my dad seemingly on his own amassed 150 megs of cache and cookies.

easy Big Guy

[Tapate50]

Just had an 89 yr old walk into my office saying she got a confirmation email from a payment she made a month ago. 89 and email... Who'd a thunk that?

[Krgrecw]

I think 90% of people who buy computers don't care about specs. It's about the ease to use and what you can do with them.

Here's three big points from the recent Black Friday:

A) InfoScout analyzed 3,000 Target Black Friday shopping receipts and determined that the iPad Air 16GB, iPad mini 16GB and iPad Air 32GB models were the number one, two and three sellers at Target, respectively, at $479, $299 and $599. They accounted for 8.2%, 7.5% and 2.4% of Target’s sales for a total of 18.1%. When you add in other Apple products they were 22% of Target’s sales on Black Friday.

B) InfoScout analyzed 5,000 Walmart Black Friday shopping receipts , both on-line and stores to determine the top seller was the iPad mini 16GB model for $299.91. The next best selling tablet was the RCA Android tablet at $48.86 which was in seventh place.

C) For the first time ever, more people have Mac desktops on their holiday wish lists than those made by Dell, according to one analytics firm that also has Apple leading in tablets and streaming set-top boxes.

So one out of every four/five products sold at target at Black Friday was an apple product. The number one item sold at walmart on Black Friday was the entry level ipad and for the first time ever, more people want mac desktops instead of much, much cheaper alternatives. Through in china on December 18 and to quote Tim cook 'it's going to be an ipad Christmas'


Not bad for a company that makes overpriced products

[zitothebrave]

Why are we comparing tablets to desktops?

Pointless points get no points.

[Krgrecw]

Mac sales are only up 29% so far, for this period over last year. Not bad for an 'expensive' and 'overpriced' computer. I would bet apple will be the only PC company up over last year in PC sales.

Anxious to see what the forthcoming 12.9 inch Ipad Pro will do in sales.

You all see the Red Mac Pro did almost $1,000,000 in the Aids auction? Pretty incredible, especially since the dude who won the bidding for it already has the new Mac Pro.

[Tapate50]

Nerds everywhere have been jacking it to this thread.

[zitothebrave]

Mac sales are only up 29% so far, for this period over last year. Not bad for an 'expensive' and 'overpriced' computer. I would bet apple will be the only PC company up over last year in PC sales.

Anxious to see what the forthcoming 12.9 inch Ipad Pro will do in sales.

You all see the Red Mac Pro did almost $1,000,000 in the Aids auction? Pretty incredible, especially since the dude who won the bidding for it already has the new Mac Pro.

Did you read any of the articles about that?

Here's one writeup

"However, this quarter’s Mac sales gains mostly derive from iMac supply issues that Apple faced during the final quarter of 2012, when the company launched a much-slimmer redesign of the popular all-in-one machines, only to be unable to meet consumer demand. Production problems — especially with the 27-inch iMac — lead to a 700,000 unit shortfall, delaying shipments for more than a month and frustrating many potential buyers. "

Here's an article about Q3 sales

http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/10/tech.../mac-pc-sales/

[Krgrecw]

Other than gamers who wants or use suped up versions of non-macs?
I would think even the small niche that use mac pros would still be bigger than people that use same price comparable non-macs. Every animator and recording artist that I have seen use Pros. I imagine every popular magazine is made on an apple computer now if not a pro.

The recently released Pro already has a one month shipping wait.

[zitothebrave]

That's probably because most animators and recording tech you've seen is a hipster. I have a friend with a degree in record engineering or whatever that waste of a degree is called. He didn't go to a specific art school for it and learned from someone who worked at some label in NY (don't recall which one) that there's no advantage to having a Mac over PC. They use different programs but they both work totally fine. But people think Macs are better for some reason. Many art schools have deals with Apple, and they therefor teach Apple, pretty genius work by Apple if you think about it. If you go to a film school, and they teach you Final Cut, and you'll be familiar with Final Cut, and then you'll stay with it because of familiarity.

[Metaphysicist]

Excellent counterpoint, Zito. The only people who use Macs are hipsters (an enormous, ambiguously large subset of amateurs) and those who have actual professional training.

Apple has been throwing computers at every conceivable institution since the 80s, using basically the reasoning you espouse. This surely has helped their business, but it has hardly amounted to a dominant market share. The reasoning behind creative pros using Macs is a wee bit more complex than "it's what I used in school." These programs aren't just simple word processors, and the variations can be pretty noteworthy and severe.

[zitothebrave]

Some benchmarks out for Mac Pro. Basically the optimist conclusion is most major programs are not updated for multi-GPU and some programs have AMD support issues. If the software guys don't get on board, there will be many issues with the Mac Pro.

[Metaphysicist]

Sure, if there is no software to use the benefits of the hardware, then sure, the hardware is pointless. But that seems fairly unlikely...

The CPU also turned out to be user-replaceable, so that's a big boost in terms of upgradeability.