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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Nats should be set up well for a title defense for the next two seasons.

    It will be interesting how quickly they decide to rebuild. It’s a healthy combination of short term win now players like Max, Corbin and Scherzer, and young elite talent like Soto, Robles and Keiboom. If they manage it right they may be able to bridge contention windows well if they are willing to trade these starting pitchers.
    Stras, Corbin and Scherzer won't have any surplus value in 3 years. The Nats are in win now mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JxnMissFan View Post
    If they don't have money for Rendon then they probably don't have money for Donaldson. Donaldson and Rendon will probably get close to the same money per year. The only difference will be 3 or 4 years versus 7 or 8 years.
    Keep in mind the Nats offered Rendon 7 yrs / 200 million while they still had Stras on the books for 4 yrs / 100 million which was prior to the World Series revenue (thatís ~50-55 million per year)

    Donaldson at $25 million and Stras at $35 is close to that same commitment. It also aligns with the reporting that the Nats view JD as their primary Rendon back up plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JxnMissFan View Post
    If they don't have money for Rendon then they probably don't have money for Donaldson. Donaldson and Rendon will probably get close to the same money per year. The only difference will be 3 or 4 years versus 7 or 8 years.
    Which is exactly the reason they'll focus on Donaldson - they'll have to give Soto a mega-deal long before a Rendon contract will be up.
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    If Nats cant keep Rendon, not sure they'll get JD. Who knows though. Nats are in win now mode so i could see it i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanforlife88 View Post
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    The #Nats are deferring more than $80 million of Strasburg's $245 million contract.
    Sorry for the Ignorant question, but how is deferred money handled? And what is the benefit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Keep in mind the Nats offered Rendon 7 yrs / 200 million while they still had Stras on the books for 4 yrs / 100 million which was prior to the World Series revenue (that’s ~50-55 million per year)

    Donaldson at $25 million and Stras at $35 is close to that same commitment. It also aligns with the reporting that the Nats view JD as their primary Rendon back up plan.
    What we don't know about the 7/200 offer to Rendon is how much the deal was back loaded. Wasn't around a third of the offer to Harper deferred?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    Sorry for the Ignorant question, but how is deferred money handled? And what is the benefit?
    The 80 million or whatever it is will be spread out over a later date. So if 80 million is deferred then his 7 year deal is worth 165 million or 23.5 per year. He then will get paid the rest of his money likely after he is retired at some point.

    The benefits are to the team. They pay less per year now so they can keep payroll down and they will pay the 80 million in the future when it's worth less than it is now due to inflation.

    The only benefit I can see to the player is if they can negotiate more in total than they would get without any deferrals. And with Stras' history that's likely what happened here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Which is exactly the reason they'll focus on Donaldson - they'll have to give Soto a mega-deal long before a Rendon contract will be up.
    Corbin and Scherzer will be off the books before Soto is a free agent. I think the Gnats money crunch will be over the next 4 years. Soto will be expensive in arb. Turner will also be pricey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JxnMissFan View Post
    Corbin and Scherzer will be off the books before Soto is a free agent. I think the Gnats money crunch will be over the next 4 years. Soto will be expensive in arb. Turner will also be pricey.
    Except Corbin and Scherzer wonít be off the books, as their deals also included substantial deferred monies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JxnMissFan View Post
    Corbin and Scherzer will be off the books before Soto is a free agent. I think the Gnats money crunch will be over the next 4 years. Soto will be expensive in arb. Turner will also be pricey.
    Nats will be paying Max 15 million per year until 2028 after his deal is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JxnMissFan View Post
    Corbin and Scherzer will be off the books before Soto is a free agent. I think the Gnats money crunch will be over the next 4 years. Soto will be expensive in arb. Turner will also be pricey.
    No they won't. They are still paying Scherzer and Corbin their deferrals for like 5-10 more years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    Except Corbin and Scherzer wonít be off the books, as their deals also included substantial deferred monies.
    I donít know the exact numbers but I know the first 2 years 2022 and 2023, they owe Max 15 million each year in deferred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Nats will be paying Max 15 million per year until 2028 after his deal is done.
    Yikes. Wasnít sure how long that went.
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    Then in 2024 Corbin goes to 35 million and then in 2025 he is owed 10 million in deferred.
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    Sounds like the Nats franchise just filed bankruptcy in 2025 instead. Hang em with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JxnMissFan View Post
    What we don't know about the 7/200 offer to Rendon is how much the deal was back loaded. Wasn't around a third of the offer to Harper deferred?
    Well yes thatís possible but hypothetically they can do the same with JD.

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    Cubs have had talks with Phils on Bryant . Nothing there at the moment. Service time grievance still an issue .
    Mark Bowman's reports carry a lot of gravity

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanforlife88 View Post
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    Cubs have had talks with Phils on Bryant . Nothing there at the moment. Service time grievance still an issue .
    This is so on par with the Phillies. Still, would definitely make more a great lineup in Philadephia.
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    It would suck to see Washington get JD and the Phillies get Bryant. AA Iím sure has had talks with everybody and knows how much everything is heís just deciding which way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanforlife88 View Post
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    Cubs have had talks with Phils on Bryant . Nothing there at the moment. Service time grievance still an issue .
    Wonder what bullets the Phils have left to get Bryant. They also donít need another short term deal that leaves another big hole. They are having to spend a lot in FA to fill in around the talent they shipped or busted. jTR is going to cost them next year. Man that team is going to be a bigger mess than the ganats.
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