Official Offseason Thread

[Southcack77]

Our big bat is going to be either Donaldson or Ozuna. Which of the two is the board’s preference? Ozuna is 5 years younger than Donaldson but Donaldson plays much better defense at a more premium position. Also we have two studs waiting to fill out our outfield vs Riley sitting behind Donaldson.

Aside from the one season, Ozuna has just been all around pretty good. Ideally, I'd like to see him hit fifth, but it would play I guess.

[Enscheff]

I say sign Ozuna and trade for Bryant we'd be the team to beat.....on paper.

That would be pretty awesome, but would require a 2020 opening day payroll of ~$165M.

I don’t think even the most posi-Brave among us thinks payroll will be boosted to that level.

[Hudson2]

AA has the money to sign JD if he wanted, it’s the years that he wants to stay away from.

[Southcack77]

Where are you going to come up with the money?

Ozuna will likely cost $16-$17 million or more AAV. Bryant's going to get more than $18 million in arbitration.

The reason we'd be interested in Ozuna is because we can't afford to stay in the Donaldson/Rendon bidding.

If the opening day payroll target is 145-155m it could work.

[thewupk]

Where are you going to come up with the money?

Ozuna will likely cost $16-$17 million or more AAV. Bryant's going to get more than $18 million in arbitration.

The reason we'd be interested in Ozuna is because we can't afford to stay in the Donaldson/Rendon bidding.

Backloaded with deferrals

[Enscheff]

If the opening day payroll target is 145-155m it could work.

130 + 18 + 16 = 164

[Heyward]

Ozuna has pretty decent numbers, nothing elite but good. Dont think his defense is great, only thing is, when has AA signed someone the media leaked about with the Braves?

[Hudson2]

AA can spin it all he wants but no way does he intend to start the season with Camargo or Riley at 3b.

[Enscheff]

AA can spin it all he wants but no way does he intend to start the season with Camargo or Riley at 3b.

Agreed. Even if Ozuna is the play, someone like Shaw has to be brought in at the very least.

[Hudson2]

Agreed. Even if Ozuna is the play, someone like Shaw has to be brought in at the very least.

Yep. He would have plenty of ammo at the deadline to bring in Lindor or somebody else if he needed to.

[Southcack77]

130 + 18 + 16 = 164

Ender plus Shane Greene perhaps.

Could also cut Duvall or Markakis, and maybe have a shorter bench.

It would be tight.

[zbhargrove]

Donaldson is a much better fit organizationally and a better player. Ozuna looks like he is already regressing, Donaldson should be. I don't think either are a good idea if it takes a 4 year deal.

Ozuna had a .259 BABIP last year compared to his career average of .315... he is still near the top of every stat cast stat that matters and he increased his BB rate last year. He could actually be a sneaky good pickup that I'd love to see Seitzer work on.

[Heyward]

Ender plus Shane Greene perhaps.

Could also cut Duvall or Markakis, and maybe have a shorter bench.

It would be tight.

You probably get rid of Duvall if we signed Ozuna.

[Southcack77]

I'm gonna make a rosterbation list.

Acuna
Albies
Freeman
Bryant
Ozuna

Sexy.

[Hudson2]

Would Ozuna take a 3 year deal?

[Southcack77]

You probably get rid of Duvall if we signed Ozuna.

Keeping Ender? Or in addition to?

[clvclv]

Donaldson is a much better fit organizationally and a better player. Ozuna looks like he is already regressing, Donaldson should be. I don't think either are a good idea if it takes a 4 year deal.

Donaldson would be the better fit in the short-term, sure. Thing is, letting Donaldson walk gets you the pick you gave up to sign Smith, meaning you added Smith and Ozuna for roughly the same AAV Donaldson may cost and it only cost you a 4th round pick.

While they're right about not handing the 3B job to Riley yet, it's still far too early to give up on him as a potential long-term answer unless you're getting one. You're also much more likely to get the type of elite inexpensive 3B answer or Ace if you were including Waters in the package instead of (or with) Riley.

You have to think Chapman is about as off-limits as anyone out there, but Beane's proven he's as big a riverboat gambler as there is - would he consider a Riley/Waters/Wright package for him? I'd doubt it as well, but that's the type of offer that AA could put together that most other teams couldn't match if he had Ozuna in the fold.

[Southcack77]

I think the money to Hamels was the most surprising thing so far.

I feel like they could have gotten 2 vets for about the same money or less.

[Hudson2]

Fun thought. If you signed Ozuna for 3 years then 1 of Waters/Pache becomes expendable for a young core piece. If we signed Ozuna for 3 years what about using Waters, Riley, and Wright in a deal for Chapman? That would set us up as WS contenders for several years while keeping Pache and Anderson in tact.

[zbhargrove]

Carlos Correa cannot stay healthy... no thanks... only one year he's ever played more than 110 games