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    BTW- Seems like Kluber came CHEAP for Texas. Cleveland must have realllllllllly liked the reliever they got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Would really like Anderson from the Marlins.

    I looks like a Yelich light to me from our matchups with the Marlins. He has an absolute cannon out there too.
    Are they looking to trade him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Don't and he's a Gnat. Better hope Riley makes adjustments in a hurry.
    Yes because if JD goes to Washington, there is no one else in the league the Braves can get to play 3rd besides Riley... lmao... clv strikes again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Not sure why you quoted your own extremely terrible post. It hasn't aged well. That has got to be one of the worst trade proposals ever.
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    Haven't seen any talk about the Rox wanting to pair Arenado with Blackmon. Rumor is they are willing to include about 40-50 mil for the deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbaxter View Post
    The site was hacked and we needed to fix it. That seems to have caused some issues in the database as well which I'm trying to fix.

    In addition, the site has been moved to a new server and that required some down time as well.

    We're working on it! :)
    What if this guy is the Russian hacker and by "the site has been moved to a new server" he means that he has Sav hogtied in his basement?

    It makes too much sense to have not happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Keep dreaming this stuff folks.

    The NL will have the DH after the second year of a Donaldson contract, and unless AA suddenly completely reverses course and ignores the Holy Grail that so many folks are making the value charts out to be and backs up the truck for a 3B that is worlds better than the current rostered options, this franchise has NO SHOT at contending for a title while it controls Freddie Freeman unless Donaldson is re-signed.

    Just sayin'.
    If JD signs elsewhere, someone else will be acquired on the level of Andujar or Bryant... you're ridiculous. I guess you're also forgetting we have a 3rd baseman on the roster who's an excellent defender and put up 3.3 fWAR in his only full time season, huh? If we settle for Camargo at 3rd, we will upgrade the OF significantly. Stop being clv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salmagundy View Post
    Haven't seen any talk about the Rox wanting to pair Arenado with Blackmon. Rumor is they are willing to include about 40-50 mil for the deal.
    This whole discussion is based on a MLB.com article posing 6 or 7 scenarios trading Arenado and some comments Jeff Bridich made regarding Rockies MAYBEs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salmagundy View Post
    Haven't seen any talk about the Rox wanting to pair Arenado with Blackmon. Rumor is they are willing to include about 40-50 mil for the deal.
    It was proposed as a hypothetical by a writer on MLB yesterday. It included some crazy package from the Braves and he concluded that the Rockies would turn his hypothetical deal down because they can get more than his proposed package by selling those two off separately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Yes because if JD goes to Washington, there is no one else in the league the Braves can get to play 3rd besides Riley... lmao... clv strikes again.
    Who are you going to trade for that even approaches the answer Donaldson provides? Seager? Please. Bryant without backing the truck up? Not happening. Arenado when we apparently don't have the money to outbid Washington for Donaldson? You taking up a collection to send AA to spend? The Yankees have held onto Frazier with nowhere to play him, what makes anyone think Cashman is suddenly going to give Andujar away?
    Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Who are you going to trade for that even approaches the answer Donaldson provides? Seager? Please. Bryant without backing the truck up? Not happening. Arenado when we apparently don't have the money to outbid Washington for Donaldson? You taking up a collection to send AA to spend? The Yankees have held onto Frazier with nowhere to play him, what makes anyone think Cashman is suddenly going to give Andujar away?
    You seriously think AA is going to let Donaldson walk without filling the hole? Not trying to be condescending, I'm just serious. If ANYTHING, he'll add a bat like Ozuna or Castellanos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    BTW- Seems like Kluber came CHEAP for Texas. Cleveland must have realllllllllly liked the reliever they got.
    The Indians committed the cardinal sin of selling low on a player coming off an injury plagued year. They did it purely to cut payroll while still fooling themselves that is was also a win now move.

    Hopefully AA doesn’t make the same mistake with Ender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    You seriously think AA is going to let Donaldson walk without filling the hole? Not trying to be condescending, I'm just serious. If ANYTHING, he'll add a bat like Ozuna or Castellanos.
    He will definitely add someone. That someone may not replicate JD’s 2019 production (even if it’s JD himself), but additions will be made to this roster that’s already an 85-90 win unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djbaxter View Post
    The site was hacked and we needed to fix it. That seems to have caused some issues in the database as well which I'm trying to fix.

    In addition, the site has been moved to a new server and that required some down time as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salmagundy View Post
    Haven't seen any talk about the Rox wanting to pair Arenado with Blackmon. Rumor is they are willing to include about 40-50 mil for the deal.
    Unless it's 40-50m per player, I'd tell them to go kick rocks (pun intended). Blackmon's contract is pretty terrible as he's already 33 and pretty awful away from Coors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaw View Post
    It was proposed as a hypothetical by a writer on MLB yesterday. It included some crazy package from the Braves and he concluded that the Rockies would turn his hypothetical deal down because they can get more than his proposed package by selling those two off separately.
    They are getting nothing for Blackmon unless they half that contract. Even then, I'd only expect them to get a 50 FV type as a headiner. There's too much risk involved with him with not much reward. He's a 2-3 win player at best and will turn 34 in July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The Indians committed the cardinal sin of selling low on a player coming off an injury plagued year. They did it purely to cut payroll while still fooling themselves that is was also a win now move.

    Hopefully AA doesn’t make the same mistake with Ender.
    Ironically, I would have been totally fine swapping Ender and Newk for Kluber. Surely that's a better package than what the Indians actually received.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    The Indians committed the cardinal sin of selling low on a player coming off an injury plagued year. They did it purely to cut payroll while still fooling themselves that is was also a win now move.

    Hopefully AA doesn’t make the same mistake with Ender.
    Ironically, I would have been totally fine swapping Ender and Newk for Kluber. Surely that's a better package than what the Indians actually received.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    You seriously think AA is going to let Donaldson walk without filling the hole? Not trying to be condescending, I'm just serious. If ANYTHING, he'll add a bat like Ozuna or Castellanos.
    No, and I've been pretty consistently banging the drum for adding Ozuna and Shaw for some time now. Would make the bench a lot deeper and would allow Riley to spend as much time as he needs in Gwinnett. The problem is, most folks around here seem to think the only "good" way to go about this is by having a 3B that can hit behind Freddie - trading for Bryant/Arenado/Andujar/whomever.

    I get that Donaldson (and Bryant and the others) are sexier names than Ozuna, but who cares? Don't burn prospect capital for someone you'll only control for 2 years unless you KNOW that guy can/will push you over the top. Sign Ozuna and give up the 4th round pick. Add Shaw and see if Seitzer can help him bounce back.

    Adding Ozuna and Shaw seriously stretches the lineup, especially with d'Arnaud on board - you'll never need to hit Dansby or Ender higher than 7th or 8th, and if somebody's desperate enough for a CF to give you something good for Ender AA can make that trade without having to hang up the phone to think about it. Pache can handle CF defensively now, and if you want to game his clock you can platoon Markakis and Duvall in RF while Acuna covers center for 6 weeks.

    The point is that AA needs to make that decision quickly and pull the trigger. If there's ANY reluctance to giving the 4th year to Donaldson - don't do it and move on. If there's any part of you that doesn't think the DH gets here before Donaldson becomes the new Melvin, walk away. This market has moved much faster than anyone expected, and if he gets bogged down in the mud with the Gnats trying to get Donaldson back Ozuna and Shaw will have signed and his only choice will then be overpaying for one of the (possibly) available guys.
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    If AA has any interest in any player, that players agent knows of the interest and that player is highly unlikely to sign a contract with any team until his agent has contacted AA. That is just how it works and that is what agents are paid to do. Pretty simple really.

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