You're arguing just to argue. The odds of winning the lottery are a fraction of 1 percent. To be more exact, for the Mega Millions it is roughly .00000003304692%. Sure it isn't technically zero, but it's close enough to say it's effectively zero and not to bother thinking of it as a plausible outcome.
Last edited by Carp; 01-16-2020 at 12:34 PM.
you do realize KEEPING the opt-out gives Arenado far more control if/when the financial landscape changes, correct? it's precisely because he could get even more if he's elite, or less if he is hurt or starts to trend down, that there's no incentive for him to waive the opt-out to go to a new team. it puts him in complete control of the very thing you're describing.
don't you think Strasburg is quite happy he didn't decide to waive his opt-out? deciding to opt-out is completely different than deciding to waive your opt-out to change teams.
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
Monetary security? Waiving his option would leave him with a 199m guarantee for that portion of his career.
We don't know what is important to Arenado, but there are many athletes who don't think getting the absolute maximum number of dollars out of their playing careers is the most important consideration.
Many athletes have taken less or waived things to get themselves out of or into a situation that they preferred better. Or to stay in one in which they are comfortable.
Not every player is motivated by the marginal dollar once they have more money than they will ever need.
Yeah those two things are different. Its technically possible for me to get into incredible shape, climb the Seven Summits, and bang every chick in Maxim's top 100. But there is literally a 0% chance of that happening. At best I could do Kilimanjaro plus 20-30 Maxim Top 100, but even that is pushing it.
Andujar and Frazier would be awesome.
Horsehide Harry (01-16-2020)
All I read on here for most of 2 months was how JD would be coming back to Atlanta cause AA had right of first refusal. Those who were more attuned (in their opinion in most cases) to how AA,s mind works thought for sure if not Atlanta then most definitely Nats.
See how all that forum expertise turned out. If JD had come back 2 days ago we could have saved 8 pages of what ifs.
lol wtf are you even talking about?
most here found it very possible JD would be leaving.
what on earth does this have to do with Arenado waiving a highly valuable opt-out just to play for a different team now rather than in 2 years?
like almost everything else posted, this "gotcha" attempt was poorly thought out.
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
I feel like this is made up. I don't recall many people saying unequivocally that Donaldson would for sure be coming back or that it was definitely down to us and the Nats. I recall mostly reading arguments on the number of years and dollars that should be given to Donaldson. I don't recall anyone of note saying that they were certain that Donaldson was coming back. I feel like I was more confident than most that we would get him, but even I spoke with several caveats in that regard.
Yes, no ****. "Monetary security" has nothing to do with his decision.
Players have done things against their maximum earning potential from much less secure financial positions.
If nothing else, the option has a dollar value that is based on the probabilities of his various career outcomes and potential markets. A rational player driven only by money should be willing to accept a reasonable offer.
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Bottom line though, I don't see Arenado as a reasonable target for Atlanta and certainly not at that cost.
Bowman's proposed package and his attempt to make it seem more reasonable by eliminating the opt-out is all pretty misguided, I think.
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
right. the option has monetary value. that is the only way he'd waive it.
i don't think he signed a market-setting, top-dollar, long-term deal a year ago that severely limits his trade value only to turn right around and say you know what, i don't care that much about the money despite signing the deal i just signed, i'll sacrifice tens of millions in potential earnings to get away from a team i just recently signed a long-term deal with.
it makes no sense.
and all of what i just said ignores that fact that in 2 years, should he sanely decide to, ya know, keep that very valuable opt-out, he can exercise it and go to a new team of his choosing at that point (for less money per year, even!) if he wants.
Last edited by Super; 01-16-2020 at 12:47 PM.
"Well, you’ll learn soon enough that this was a massive red wave landslide." - thethe on the 2020 election that trump lost bigly
“I can’t fix my life, but I can fix the world.” - sturg
jpx7 (01-16-2020)
Yeah this is another point that isn't related to money at all. Why would he waive his opt out to get out of his current situation, to enter into a different situation that he knows nothing about, and lock himself in to that situation for the rest of his career. The opt out isn't exclusively about money, its also about getting out of a situation you don't want to be in. So the exact reason why people are saying he would waive his opt-out is the exact reason why he should keep it. Otherwise he's locking himself in to a situation that he may hate in a year's time.
jpx7 (01-16-2020)
Carlos Beltran has stepped down as Mets manager due to the sign stealing scandal
Get off my lawn!