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    Quote Originally Posted by skillet View Post
    That ain't happening, besides minor fill moves, we are done. Camargo/Riley it is at 3rd.
    I wouldn't bank on that... if AA can clear some more payroll dealing a combination of Ender and/or Greene and/or Melancon I fully expect them to go after one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Current payroll is at 150 million, 11th highest in baseball.
    Which is where we should always be considering our market is the 9th largest.
    We shouldn’t be a top 5 payroll but always should be between 7-12ish depending on how well we are drawing/winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skillet View Post
    And Ozuna for 2. Adding 1 War is not worth 18 million plus giving up a sandwich pick between the 2nd and 3rd round.
    I think Ozuna will kill it this year if he stays healthy. I also do not think we are done.

    We could trade Ender, Greene and cut Duvall....and that would pretty much cover what we pay to Ozuna if need be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    I wouldn't bank on that... if AA can clear some more payroll dealing a combination of Ender and/or Greene and/or Melancon I fully expect them to go after one of them.
    I agree. If he did want Arenado he could have them take one of Greene or MM back to cut the salary down and with all the money coming off the books next year we could easily fit him in. And again, the better the prospects the more money they’ll have to eat on the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skillet View Post
    And Ozuna for 2. Adding 1 War is not worth 18 million plus giving up a sandwich pick between the 2nd and 3rd round.
    He’s projected for 3 wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBravos View Post
    I think Ozuna will kill it this year if he stays healthy. I also do not think we are done.

    We could trade Ender, Greene and cut Duvall....and that would pretty much cover what we pay to Ozuna if need be.
    If that’s the case, and we trade for KB/Arenado then we’ll likely see Markakis full time.

    Markakis + KB/Arenado or Ender + Riley/Camargo?

    Definitely Markakis + KB/Arenado. Although the pen weakens a bit and the bench is one bat shallower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I agree. If he did want Arenado he could have them take one of Greene or MM back to cut the salary down and with all the money coming off the books next year we could easily fit him in. And again, the better the prospects the more money they’ll have to eat on the deal.
    I do not think it is likely, BUT if the right deal presents itself....we have the flexibility to pull it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tululush View Post
    If that’s the case, and we trade for KB/Arenado then we’ll likely see Markakis full time.

    Markakis + KB/Arenado or Ender + Riley/Camargo?

    Definitely Markakis + KB/Arenado. Although the pen weakens a bit and the bench is one bat shallower.
    We'd still have Duvall. So I'm hopeful Snit will platoon Duvall with Neck properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skillet View Post
    And Ozuna for 2. Adding 1 War is not worth 18 million plus giving up a sandwich pick between the 2nd and 3rd round.
    you failed. it’s ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tululush View Post
    If that’s the case, and we trade for KB/Arenado then we’ll likely see Markakis full time.

    Markakis + KB/Arenado or Ender + Riley/Camargo?

    Definitely Markakis + KB/Arenado. Although the pen weakens a bit and the bench is one bat shallower.
    I’m not that high on Greene anyway, but he does hold value. I think he could be replaced decently easy.

    I don’t think we get Bryant at all. Too much surplus value to make up. Arenado would be the play. We have a 3rd base prospect ready to play in Riley, and a outfielder that can cover ground in that big park and plenty of pitching.

    If Arenado keeps it up and weakens their position...I could see AA make a play.

    Can you imagine if we added Ozuna and Arenado while still retaining Waters, Pache and Anderson for the future. That would be impressive in the present AND the future.

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    Markakis to the bench

    !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    you failed. it’s ok.
    Care to explain how your highness?

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    Career low Babip on career high hard hit%.

    Career high walk %.

    No real red flags in the peripherals.

    I'm very happy. If anything I'd have preferred something like 3/45 over the 1 year deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyTrain View Post
    Markakis to the bench

    !!
    Did anyone tell Snitker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skillet View Post
    Care to explain how your highness?
    Ozuna isn’t projected for 2 WAR. pretty easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Career low Babip on career high hard hit%.

    Career high walk %.

    No real red flags in the peripherals.

    I'm very happy. If anything I'd have preferred something like 3/45 over the 1 year deal.
    I wouldn’t be surprised it we offered more years, but he has seen those big deals and wants one next year. I think he will end up being the best signing and will we will HATE seeing him leave on a big deal next year.

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    If wanted, we could fit in someone else big. Ender/Greene/Duvall is about what Ozuna makes now. Even Melancon too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super View Post
    Ozuna isn’t projected for 2 WAR. pretty easy.
    I do see that he is projected for 3. Possible but unlikely given he's only reached that level twice in seven years. But let's go with the 3, adding 2 War is worth $16MM, not $18MM plus the pick. So yes, I am correct, but sorry, all of us can't be.

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    Pache/Acuna/Ozuna

    That’s a fun outfield.

    FYI - Ozuna’s closest Statcast comp... Freddie

    Basically a perfect outcome for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skillet View Post
    I do see that he is projected for 3. Possible but unlikely given he's only reached that level twice in seven years. But let's go with the 3, adding 2 War is worth $16MM, not $18MM plus the pick. So yes, I am correct, but sorry, all of us can't be.
    that’s...not how it works. bad try, but at least you did try.
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