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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    Cincinnati being idiots. What are they going to do with senzel and Suarez? They clearly want to compete. They have hitters but need arms. If I’m aa I want to see how dumb they are. Can I get them to jump on the poo poo platter? They need a cf so inciarte. Senzel to 3b. Trade One of our catching prospects, Wright, Wilson, muller and Davidson?
    The opposite actually. They have good pitching. They don't have much hitting. Suarez and Winker were their only reliable hitters prior to signing Moose Tacos. Votto has finally hit the last stages of his decline. I'd expect Senzel to improve, but you can't exactly pencil him in as a big offensive contributor yet.

    Reds need a big bat either in the OF or at SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    The opposite actually. They have good pitching. They don't have much hitting. Suarez and Winker were their only reliable hitters prior to signing Moose Tacos. Votto has finally hit the last stages of his decline. I'd expect Senzel to improve, but you can't exactly pencil him in as a big offensive contributor yet.

    Reds need a big bat either in the OF or at SS.
    And Rosenthal just mentioned on Hot Stove that they're "in" on Wheeler.

    He says that Wheeler has "at least" one offer of 5/$100 million in hand already.

    If they somehow have the resources to add Didi and Wheeler, they're going to scare a lot of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Shaw would be a good guy to do a deep dive into his 2019 stats. First glance tells us his exit velocities were within his normal range, and that .214 BABIP was pretty rough.
    Agree. At the very least, he'd be a quality 300 AB bench guy who would give us a legitimate back-up at 1B in addition to playing a lot of 3B and he could be more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Agree. At the very least, he'd be a quality 300 AB bench guy who would give us a legitimate back-up at 1B in addition to playing a lot of 3B and he could be more than that.
    With how thin the 3rd base market is, I highly doubt Shaw is going to sign somewhere to be a bench guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    With how thin the 3rd base market is, I highly doubt Shaw is going to sign somewhere to be a bench guy.
    That might be true, but someone may have to break it to Travis that he probably is a bench guy. He's a lifetime mid-.600 OPS guy against LHP, so he looks like a platoon guy wherever he goes. If the Braves are confident Camargo could do the RHH part of a platoon with Shaw, it could be a possibility. Problem for the Braves is that they would be putting a huge question mark on a key position in the batting order.

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    With deals like Mous the only people the Reds are going to scare are their own fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    That might be true, but someone may have to break it to Travis that he probably is a bench guy. He's a lifetime mid-.600 OPS guy against LHP, so he looks like a platoon guy wherever he goes. If the Braves are confident Camargo could do the RHH part of a platoon with Shaw, it could be a possibility. Problem for the Braves is that they would be putting a huge question mark on a key position in the batting order.
    What's better than a double platoons in the OF? A double platoon in the OF with a third at 3rd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    What's better than a double platoons in the OF? A double platoon in the OF with a third at 3rd.
    And with a manager who thinks the only good platoon was a movie from the 80s.
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    Got a notification that Cole and Stras have meetings scheduled with the Yankees
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    Don't the Dodgers love platoons? With enough quality depth I think it's a good strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    And with a manager who thinks the only good platoon was a movie from the 80s.

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    I can’t wait to see the rabbit AA pulls out of his hat to acquire a #4 hitter if he can’t sign JD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    I can’t wait to see the rabbit AA pulls out of his hat to acquire a #4 hitter if he can’t sign JD.

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    If the blurbs that Rendon is going to sign sooner rather than later are true, this is all liable to shake itself out pretty quickly. If Rendon signs with the Rangers or Dodgers and the Rangers/Dodgers/Phillies/Gnats gobble Donaldson up, AA may have no choice other than to sign Ozuna and platoon someone with Riley or Camargo if he wants to have a legitimate middle of the order bat behind Freddie - who else is out there???

    I don't think ANYONE wants to commit 4/$100 million to Donaldson but I said last week that that's probably what it's going to take, and I still believe that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Interesting starting pitching:

    Gausman - might be a good long man
    Tajuan Walker - flyer off injury
    Jimmy Nelson - not sure where he is in his cycle of injury, but decent when briefly healthy

    Cesar Hernandez - not sure where he would fit on the Braves but solid player
    Travis Shaw - Actually does fit the Braves as a left handed utility man that with a bounce back might be a mid-line 3B starter for cheap. If that is the case, you would want to see an OF acquisition.
    Kevin Pillar - CF - not what he was and not ideal but perhaps useful in a scenario where Inciarte's money is dealt.
    Blake Treinen - will be someone's reclamation project, but hard to see it being in Atlanta giving the previous offseason investments.
    One of the Brewers' broadcasters was on XM earlier and said that his understanding is that they believe that Nelson's never going to be healthy again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    With deals like Mous the only people the Reds are going to scare are their own fans.
    Keep kidding yourself. Add Moose and Didi to that offense and bring Hamilton back on the cheap to replace Senzel defensively in close games and they're the favorites to win the Central. Add Wheeler to that rotation and they've got a chance to beat anybody in a playoff series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Keep kidding yourself. Add Moose and Didi to that offense and bring Hamilton back on the cheap to replace Senzel defensively in close games and they're the favorites to win the Central. Add Wheeler to that rotation and they've got a chance to beat anybody in a playoff series.
    Save your arguments for the Council of Sabermetriceae. You're gonna need it Arius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    Keep kidding yourself. Add Moose and Didi to that offense and bring Hamilton back on the cheap to replace Senzel defensively in close games and they're the favorites to win the Central. Add Wheeler to that rotation and they've got a chance to beat anybody in a playoff series.
    The love affair with Didi is hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    Interesting starting pitching:

    Gausman - might be a good long man
    Tajuan Walker - flyer off injury
    Jimmy Nelson - not sure where he is in his cycle of injury, but decent when briefly healthy

    Cesar Hernandez - not sure where he would fit on the Braves but solid player
    Travis Shaw - Actually does fit the Braves as a left handed utility man that with a bounce back might be a mid-line 3B starter for cheap. If that is the case, you would want to see an OF acquisition.
    Kevin Pillar - CF - not what he was and not ideal but perhaps useful in a scenario where Inciarte's money is dealt.
    Blake Treinen - will be someone's reclamation project, but hard to see it being in Atlanta giving the previous offseason investments.
    Give me Blake Treinen and move Luke Jackson!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixiXSolidXixi View Post
    Give me Blake Treinen and move Luke Jackson!
    Enough with that. Luke Jackson is our second best reliever

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