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    I like Wheeler but I'm convinced everything the Phillies do is wrong.

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    Passan stating it's a 5 year pact. Damn, was really hoping the Failies went full faily on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I'm gonna guess 6 years and 140 million.
    Sounds like 5 years
    Get off my lawn!

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    5 years ~$120 m according to reports
    Get off my lawn!

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    5 years and just under 120 million. Not quite a total albatross it would seem, but a hefty contract nonetheless.
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    I was guessing 5 - 125. I am ok with 25 mill a year. Loss of draft pick. Go faillies.
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    He’s not worth that at all. That is betting on getting it all to click, and in that park... EH

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    Now all we need major moves wise is to add a damn 3B!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    5 years and just under 120 million. Not quite a total albatross, but a hefty contract nonetheless.
    Yeah. Not as bad as 125. But I still think he will not age great and that is a horrible park to pitch in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    He’s not worth that at all. That is betting on getting it all to click, and in that park... EH

    He needs to produce roughly 12 WAR over the life of the contract to be worth it. I think that's totally doable considering his last couple of seasons, but the injury concerns with him make it a pretty big risk. Certainly a lot of money/years to guarantee to a guy that's never pitched more than 200 innings.

    I'll say it again, they should have went after Cole/Stras if they were willing to spend "stupid money."
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    Haven't read through all this, but is there a LH 3b platoon partner for Riley/camargo perhaps?

    ETA... if so, go get ozuna

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    I expect the Phillies to sign Donaldson. They seem to be cannibalizing NL East teams with their stupid money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Haven't read through all this, but is there a LH 3b platoon partner for Riley/camargo perhaps?

    ETA... if so, go get ozuna
    Only way I’d let Riley start at 3b from ST is if we got Lindor and Ozuna somehow.

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    I really love Wheeler and his potential but this is pretty awful for the Phillies. They're going to be in cap hell soon, with a ****ty farm system to boot. They better go all-in now and grab another elite bat and some more depth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    Only way I’d let Riley start at 3b from ST is if we got Lindor and Ozuna somehow.
    They don't need both. But they do need to get a legit player whether it's Ozuna, Donaldson, or Lindor, etc. In that scenario Riley should see a lot of ABs against lefties whether that's at 3B or LF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    I really love Wheeler and his potential but this is pretty awful for the Phillies. They're going to be in cap hell soon, with a ****ty farm system to boot. They better go all-in now and grab another elite bat and some more depth.
    Wheeler has been really good the last two years and likely 'earns' that contract

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    LMAO:

    #WhiteSox’s offer to Wheeler was for MORE than the $118M he will receive from the #Phillies, sources tell The Athletic. As
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    said, Wheeler’s wife is from New Jersey, and that proximity was an important consideration in his decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    They don't need both. But they do need to get a legit player whether it's Ozuna, Donaldson, or Lindor, etc. In that scenario Riley should see a lot of ABs against righties whether that's at 3B or LF.
    Neck was terrible last year and is a year older and Ender who knows. I see Acuna being our only reliable OF’er again next year. Personally Neck should be a bench bat and nothing else at this point bc he’s just not a starter at anymore. If they can resign JD then a cheaper option like Haniger needs to be brought in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    They don't need both. But they do need to get a legit player whether it's Ozuna, Donaldson, or Lindor, etc. In that scenario Riley should see a lot of ABs against righties whether that's at 3B or LF.
    Lefties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesfanMatt View Post
    Lefties.
    indeed. thanks for the catch

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