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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippyjms View Post
    I don't know that I agree. Neck's defensive metrics were pretty brutal last year. I'd rather have someone like Joyce for 1-2 mil. Quality platoon piece that we know will easily slide into a bench role.
    I would cut Markakis and Teheran.

    If you can't sign them for 4 and 11 million later I would not really worry about it.

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    Knowing what ball MLB will use next year would help. If they continue to use the live HR ball, then guys like Teheran (high BB/9, high HR/9) have diminishing value.

    I see the rotation next year as being: Folty, Soroka, Fried then a guy or two like Odorizzi, Smyly, Wheeler or maybe a trade for a guy like Kluber. Plus, we may see Newk back in for another shot after a year in the bullpen. So, let's say: Wheeler, Folty, Soroka, Fried and Smyly (or Kluber) with Keuchel and Teheran's money ($32+M) going to pay for Wheeler and Smyly (or Kluber) with a little left over.

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    I think they’ll make a run at Bumgarner. They like that veteran presence in the rotation and he has tons of it. He’s no ace like DK but he brings stability to a group of young guys. I’d be fine with a rotation of Soroka, Bumgarner, Folty, Fried, and Anderson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I think they’ll make a run at Bumgarner. They like that veteran presence in the rotation and he has tons of it. He’s no ace like DK but he brings stability to a group of young guys. I’d be fine with a rotation of Soroka, Bumgarner, Folty, Fried, and Anderson
    Lol wut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hudson2 View Post
    I think they’ll make a run at Bumgarner. They like that veteran presence in the rotation and he has tons of it. He’s no ace like DK but he brings stability to a group of young guys. I’d be fine with a rotation of Soroka, Bumgarner, Folty, Fried, and Anderson
    There is a reason DK didn't get that big deal he originally wanted and we saw why.

    I expect a lot if improvements from the rotation in 2020. The p

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Lol wut
    Missing commas. "He's no ace, like DK, but..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    Missing commas. "He's no ace, like DK, but..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I would cut Markakis and Teheran.

    If you can't sign them for 4 and 11 million later I would not really worry about it.
    I mean here’s how I see the situation with Teheran. The past 2 years we’ve made the playoffs. Both times the team elected not to use Teheran to start playoff games. Hell this year it would have actually made the most sense to give Teheran the game 4 start but the team still opted against it. That all being the case why pay him that money? If we want some meh vet just plop Tomlin in the rotation.

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    Tehearn is fine as a #5 that will eat 180ish innings to a 4ERA tune. He's not an awful value at $11M, but I'm hoping we can upgrade that. Just don't know who's out there on a short term deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freshmaker View Post
    Tehearn is fine as a #5 that will eat 180ish innings to a 4ERA tune. He's not an awful value at $11M, but I'm hoping we can upgrade that. Just don't know who's out there on a short term deal
    Resign Tomlin and let him and the kids battle for the 5th spot. 11 mil for a fifth starter is a luxury I don’t think we can afford

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    Missing commas. "He's no ace, like DK, but..."
    Yeah, DK is such an ace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slippyjms View Post
    Resign Tomlin and let him and the kids battle for the 5th spot. 11 mil for a fifth starter is a luxury I don’t think we can afford
    The going rate for 1 WAR is about 9M.

    Last season Teheran was a 1.6 fWAR player. And that's with a valuation system that doesn't credit him with having a track record of outperforming his peripherals. So actually 11M might NOT be better spent elsewhere.
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    Given all the needs we have, i dunno if spending 11-12 mil on Julio is wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Yeah, DK is such an ace.
    *sigh* no one gets comparative clause humor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Given all the needs we have, i dunno if spending 11-12 mil on Julio is wise.
    Spending market value for a 1-2 win pitcher would be a waste of resources, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    *sigh* no one gets comparative clause humor.
    I, like you, understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    *sigh* no one gets comparative clause humor.
    Oh, I got it. I just don’t like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Spending market value for a 1-2 win pitcher would be a waste of resources, imo.
    I mean we made the playoffs the last 2 years, and Julio didnt start either game. 2 of Wright, Touki, Anderson among others at some point for league minimum while using Julio's money elsewhere seems better.

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    Teheran is going to be an interesting call, and I can see arguments from both sides.

    Ideally, AA can combine the savings from Teheran with a little more cash to bring in an upgrade like MadBum or Wheeler on a short deal.

    Unfortunately, his option must be decided upon before AA knows whether or not he can get an upgrade of that caliber in a short term deal since those deals tend to happen late in the game.

    I suspect my play would be to decline the option and bank once the fact that pitcher of Teheran’s caliber or better will be available late in the offseason, but I wouldn’t be shocked to see them take the risk averse approach and pick up the option.

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