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    Braves ZiPS

    https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2020-zip...tlanta-braves/

    little low on Acuña, IMO. 4.2? Meh.

    edit: they have him at 5.1 on the list but 4.2 on the field view thing...different for Freeman too.
    edit: reading is essential:

    "One pedantic note for 2020: for the WAR graphic, I’m using FanGraphs’ depth charts playing time, not the playing time ZiPS spits out, so there will be occasional differences in WAR totals."
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    Very nice to see the Fried comps with Trout.
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    Hopefully they add something on Felix soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Hopefully they add something on Felix soon.
    Don't get your hopes up, he's only gonna be good for 3.5 this season

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Don't get your hopes up, he's only gonna be good for 3.5 this season
    So only our 8th best pitcher.
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    I guess I would fine with Albies and Acuña being Beltre and Frank Robinson. If you are gonna twist my arm about it.

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    That 0.7 WAR from 531 PAs of Nicky Cleanup sure does look sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    That 0.7 WAR from 531 PAs of Nicky Cleanup sure does look sweet.
    Even if we get Castellanos or Ozuna Snit is going to put Neck at cleanup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    I guess I would fine with Albies and Acuña being Beltre and Frank Robinson. If you are gonna twist my arm about it.
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    I feel like if used properly Nick could be solid for us. But I have no faith in Snitker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TURBO View Post
    I feel like if used properly Nick could be solid for us. But I have no faith in Snitker.
    I'm not sure he'll have much of a choice. Ozuna and Acuna are going to be locks every game and I'd have Duvall and Ender ahead of Neck in the pecking against left handed pitching.

    I'd like to see Inciarte and Nick split time 50/50 against RHP, with Acuna playing CF during Nick starts. Have Duvall and Ender split time against LHP, with Duvall getting ~70% of the share of starts against those guys. Ultimately, I'd like to see their ABs distributed kinda like this:

    Ender: 300-350 ABs
    Nick: 200-225 ABs
    Duvall: 150-175 ABs

    If platooned correctly, I think you could get some really solid production out of that 3rd outfield spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    I'm not sure he'll have much of a choice. Ozuna and Acuna are going to be locks every game and I'd have Duvall and Ender ahead of Neck in the pecking against left handed pitching.

    I'd like to see Inciarte and Nick split time 50/50 against RHP, with Acuna playing CF during Nick starts. Have Duvall and Ender split time against LHP, with Duvall getting ~70% of the share of starts against those guys. Ultimately, I'd like to see their ABs distributed kinda like this:

    Ender: 300-350 ABs
    Nick: 200-225 ABs
    Duvall: 150-175 ABs

    If platooned correctly, I think you could get some really solid production out of that 3rd outfield spot.
    To be fair I posted this before the Ozuna signing.

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    ZiPS has Ozuna at 2.8 WAR and Donaldson at 3.9.

    Not a bad replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    ZiPS has Ozuna at 2.8 WAR and Donaldson at 3.9.

    Not a bad replacement.
    FG noted that Steamer was at 3.1

    Pretty solid. Easy to forget you don't have to replace JD from 2019, but JD's 2020 to compare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    I'm not sure he'll have much of a choice. Ozuna and Acuna are going to be locks every game and I'd have Duvall and Ender ahead of Neck in the pecking against left handed pitching.

    I'd like to see Inciarte and Nick split time 50/50 against RHP, with Acuna playing CF during Nick starts. Have Duvall and Ender split time against LHP, with Duvall getting ~70% of the share of starts against those guys. Ultimately, I'd like to see their ABs distributed kinda like this:

    Ender: 300-350 ABs
    Nick: 200-225 ABs
    Duvall: 150-175 ABs

    If platooned correctly, I think you could get some really solid production out of that 3rd outfield spot.

    I think having two left handed options in the platoon is sort of like having too many different kinds of crappy pie at a fast food restaurant. Maybe you should just have one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I think having two left handed options in the platoon is sort of like having too many different kinds of crappy pie at a fast food restaurant. Maybe you should just have one.
    One is a def replacement too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southcack77 View Post
    I think having two left handed options in the platoon is sort of like having too many different kinds of crappy pie at a fast food restaurant. Maybe you should just have one.
    Yeah, maybe. But I do think that limiting their playing time can keep both of them healthy and productive. I also like the fact that they both bring different skillsets to the table. I think Nick could potentially produce an .800+ OPS if he were only facing RHP and I think Ender is going to be much better defensively now that he's had a chance to get healthier. I don't mind the current OF situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanieAntics View Post
    Yeah, maybe. But I do think that limiting their playing time can keep both of them healthy and productive. I also like the fact that they both bring different skillsets to the table. I think Nick could potentially produce an .800+ OPS if he were only facing RHP and I think Ender is going to be much better defensively now that he's had a chance to get healthier. I don't mind the current OF situation
    imagine if second half Ender showed up in the first half
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chosen One View Post
    imagine if second half Ender showed up in the first half
    Imagine a platoon of Ender/Duvall with Neck on the bench. Just imagine...

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    Was looking at 2019 ZIPS and man, our bullpen then to now is night and day lol. Like, our 7th and 8th option are good options.

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