The Coronavirus, not the beer

[tululush]

I guess I'll point out here that tulu never provided any substance beyond "not mandatory masks on kids" as a reason to criticize DeSantis.

He is welcome to at any point but I won't hold my breath beyond some personal insult

Nah man. I’d have a more intelligent conversation with a wall. I love how you continue to spew out the same garbage when you do the exact stuff you accuse people of doing. Lol just last week you got called out by a handful of people for your nonsensical conspiracy theory about made up police suicides due to 1/6. What happened after you were called out? You and ran along.

[sturg33]

I guess ill point out tulu once again decided not to engage in substance.

He bizarrely brought up how I questioned that 4/500 Capitol police killed themselves. I still do. Math is math

[goldfly]

Ok so you support peer reviewed scientific debate

But don't care about censoring peer reviewed scientific debate

Mmmkay

Again, since it seems you’re really stupid

I said and I quote:

i really don't care what youtube bans from their platform

[sturg33]

Right. I'd repeat my post above. But you're too dumb to follow along.

You are one of the good guys

[goldfly]

anyway, as fun as that was

moving a long to things that aren't youtube policies


Hospitals Face A Shortage Of Nurses As COVID Cases Soar

The rapidly escalating surge in COVID-19 infections across the U.S. has caused a shortage of nurses and other front-line staff in virus hot spots that can no longer keep up with the flood of unvaccinated patients and are losing workers to burnout and lucrative out-of-state temporary gigs.

Florida, Louisiana, Arkansas and Oregon all have more people hospitalized with COVID-19 than at any other point in the pandemic, and nursing staffs are badly strained.

Hospitals in some parts of the U.S. can no longer keep up with the flood of unvaccinated patients as nurses and other health workers leave the profession because of burnout.


https://www.npr.org/2021/08/10/10265...TZRbjvBv2pH7F4

[goldfly]

Lol

[Tapate50]

Says the man triggered by other members of this board saying they’re ok with covidiots dying due to their inability to take the vaccine. So let me get this straight: you loathe those who talk about death bc morons won’t take their medicine, but you’re ok with death rates being so high in Florida bc it’s an elderly population? Keep making sense.

What people are upset about is his utter defiance to help govern his state with health and safety measures. He governs a state that has absolutely exploded in death and covid, but he’s threatening to withhold teachers pay if they don’t adhere to his non-mask mandate? And not too long after he scoffed at Biden for wanting to discuss covid he’s begging for 300 ventilators. The hypocrisy knows no bounds. But sure, keep burying your dumbass in the sand. If this were any politician that was a Democrat I have no doubt you’d be crying like the bitch that you are.

I mean you went a long way to say he’s letting people decide what they should and shouldn’t be doing for their health and their bodies ? The horror.

AND pushing vaccination?

Yeah we got another Hitler on our hands folks.

[acesfull86]

https://johnhcochrane.blogspot.com/2...tence.html?m=1

WWII started badly for the United States. Our tanks blew up. Our torpedoes were duds. Our airplanes were outclassed. Many commanders were incompetent, soldiers green, supplies chaotic. We lost a lot of battles. But we learned. The lessons of each mistake were incorporated, incompetent commanders sacked, soldiers learned their terrible craft.

Delta is the fourth wave of covid, and amazingly the US policy response is even more irresolute than the first time around. Our government is like a child, sent next door to get a cup of sugar, who gets as far as the front stoop and then wanders off following a puppy.

The policy response is now focused on the most medically ineffective but most politically symbolic step, mask mandates. All all-night disco in Provincetown turns in to a superspreader event so... we make school kids wear masks in outdoor summer camps? Masks are several decimal places less effective than vaccines, and less effective than "social distance" in the first place.* Go to that all night disco, unvaccinated, but wear a mask? Please.

If we're going to do NPI (non pharmaceutical interventions), policy other than vaccines, the level of policy and public discussion has tragically regressed since last summer. Last summer, remember, we were all talking about testing. Alex Tabarrok and Paul Romer were superb on how fast tests can reduce the reproduction rate, even with just voluntary isolation following tests. Other countries had competent test and tracing regimes. Have we built that in a year? No. (Are we ready to test and trace the next bug? Double no.)

What happened to the paper-strip tests you could buy for $2.00 at Walgreen's, get instant results, and maybe decide it's a bad idea to go to the all night dance party? Interest faded in November. (Last I looked, the sellers and FDA were still insisting on prescriptions and an app sign up, so it cost $50 and insurance "paid for" it.) What happened to detailed local data? Did anyone ever get it through the FDA's and CDCs thick skulls that even imperfect but cheap and fast tests can be used to slow spread of disease?

Last summer, we were talking about super-spreader events, and the idea that you don't have to have disastrous lockdowns of everything but maybe packed all-night disco parties are a bad idea? (Reopen smart, I wrote at the time, for example here) Today, silence. Masks. Nice big symbolic masks. Period.

And then we indulge another round of America's favorite pastime, answers in search of a question. Delta is spreading, so... extend the renter eviction moratorium. People who haven't paid rent in a year can stay, landlords be damned. Usually our government mandates A shall give to B because it isn't willing to spend the money directly. Hilariously in this case it's because the government is simply unable to shovel rent money out the door, even to the scammers who have gotten so much unemployment money. Somehow throwing people who don't pay rent into "the street" is our major source of covid spread, but releasing a wave of illegal undocumented migrants into "the community" in the next story does not, and the same people free to go to all night disco parties is not a danger. (Disclaimer: I'm all for immigration, but not for hypocrisy.) By and large the Administration and commenters can't even bother to pretend that stopping evictions has anything to do with stopping the spread of covid, the only source of government's authority. (One example I just happened to hear as I was writing this, PBS' interview of Secretary Fudge.) The rent is too damn high is all you need to know.

[sturg33]

Lol

That one is actually funny

[tululush]

I mean you went a long way to say he’s letting people decide what they should and shouldn’t be doing for their health and their bodies ? The horror.

AND pushing vaccination?

Yeah we got another Hitler on our hands folks.

Hahahahaha I’d say this is the funniest thing I’ve read in this board but you’re competing with two rather dumb people for that title. Sorry. Try again.

[sturg33]

Hahahahaha I’d say this is the funniest thing I’ve read in this board but you’re competing with two rather dumb people for that title. Sorry. Try again.

Dude is mentally incapable debating on substance

[Tapate50]

Hahahahaha I’d say this is the funniest thing I’ve read in this board but you’re competing with two rather dumb people for that title. Sorry. Try again.

Wow.

[goldfly]

[sturg33]

Why on earth would that be, we wonder aloud.

[sturg33]

I was told we are supposed to make people uncomfortable for effective protests

[sturg33]

The country is simply attacking its citizens. How much more can they take.

In a place with 8 million citizens their 7 day average is 3 deaths.

I know the lecturer says the people simply need to wait a couple years to vote for different leadership but their lives are being taken from them right now

[thethe]

Hey humans. Stop talking to each other.

That'll go over well.

[goldfly]

[Tapate50]

I’m sure we could just stay inside and discuss things online in a place with a common theme. That sounds better than conversation right ?

[Tapate50]

Where have I seen this before ? Hmmmm