The Coronavirus, not the beer

[sturg33]

I think the idea with viruses is that they will mutate (like you mentioned), but in a mass vaccination state only the most transmissible that are immune to the vaccine will continue to spread. This is why the hopes of zero cases is a fantasy.

However, what’s misleading is that more transmissible =/= more dangerous. We aren’t engineering a worse situation with vaccines. That’s just straight up fear mongering.

Everyone get (all) of your vaccines

The problem is our leaders are approaching restrictions in a zero-covid goal

Deaths are way down but restrictions are getting more strict.

They are not going to give up this power and as long as cases are a thing the covid cowards will continue to beg the government to protect them

[thethe]

They need it to stay alive until 2022 midterms.

Its pretty easy. This aint about science at all.

[nsacpi]

I think the idea with viruses is that they will mutate (like you mentioned), but in a mass vaccination state only the most transmissible that are immune to the vaccine will continue to spread. This is why the hopes of zero cases is a fantasy.

However, what’s misleading is that more transmissible =/= more dangerous. We aren’t engineering a worse situation with vaccines. That’s just straight up fear mongering.

Everyone get (all) of your vaccines

That's right. With the vaccines, only a particular subset of mutations will get to propagate themselves. Which I believe is a benefit of having many people vaccinated. Many mutations (some harmful some not) will get knocked out by the vaccines. Some will not. Which is not an indictment of the vaccines. It just means they aren't a 100% silver bullet. We should not let the perfect become the enemy of the good.

[sturg33]

2 shots give 8 months of immunity how long will one booster last?

[sturg33]

After mass vaccination worldwide cases have exploded

I know I know... "delta"

[sturg33]

Doesn't matter

[Jaw]

The problem is our leaders are approaching restrictions in a zero-covid goal

Deaths are way down but restrictions are getting more strict.

They are not going to give up this power and as long as cases are a thing the covid cowards will continue to beg the government to protect them

The only hospital in my county is sending people elsewhere because all of the beds are full. They have extra beds lining the hallways. ER visits are happening in the hallways. Deaths may be down, but hospitalizations are still a problem.

[nsacpi]

After mass vaccination worldwide cases have exploded

i know in your world this is "proof" vaccines dont work

[sturg33]

i know in your world this is "proof" vaccines dont work

No.

"Delta"

[nsacpi]

Doesn't matter

bump

don't delta and other factors render this nonsensical

[sturg33]

Masks and vaccine passports are useless.

[nsacpi]

Deaths may be down, but hospitalizations are still a problem.

Death rate is at its all time high in at least one state and pretty close to it in several others.

[57Brave]

I agree that taxes are a major disincentive for growth. Thanks for finally seeing the light

You see a disincentive where I view it an incentive .

Basic world view ****

[sturg33]

You see a disincentive where I view it an incentive .

Basic world view ****

You said higher taxes reduces the growth of smoking.

I agree.

[sturg33]

Death rate is at its all time high in at least one state and pretty close to it in several others.

What's the vaccination rate in the state you are referring to

[sturg33]

Gold standard

[nsacpi]

What's the vaccination rate in the state you are referring to

51.7%

[sturg33]

Oh

[sturg33]

[nsacpi]

Oh

go on

i think you are implying vaccines have not been effective in reducing death or hospitalization rates

but perhaps i am misunderestimating you