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    I wonder now if Trump is using Pence as a scapegoat for the response and use this as an excuse to get him off the ticket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Great speech.
    I thought it was his best performance so far. Now for the content, most of it was pure BS. The travel ban from China didn't stop anything and the new one from Europe won't either. The virus is already walking around inside Air Force One and the White House, for crissakes. About those tests.....
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    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/futu...ait-trump.html


    And the Dow drops 1000 points after Trumps speech. Now officially in a bear market ending a historic 11 year run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/futu...ait-trump.html


    And the Dow drops 1000 points after Trumps speech. Now officially in a bear market ending a historic 11 year run.
    Couldn't have been 11 years because the economy only started doing well 3 years ago.
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    So keeping up with Trump claims we are now 1000+ more cases of Coronavirus than Trump said there would be and we are 26 trillion under his estimate of eliminating the national debt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    I don't know what you're babbling about. I'm pointing out that the market is gonna bottom out, where the actual bottom is we won't know. but we rely on a lot of goods from Europe (and I'm assuming Europe is liekly to enact a similar ban with America) we do a lot of business with Germany. And it isn't all obvious. Like a lot of medical equipment and technology and almost anything optical has German parts in it. We're in for a rough rough ride for at least the next month. Possibly longer. I'm preparing for the worst. I will go stock up on non-perishables to ride me through the next month or so. I have a freezer mostly full of meat that I can cook. Like this could get really bad before it gets better, I hope it doesn't go that far, but we could be looking depression level bad. Hopefully the folks in Washington step up and don't allow it to come to this. Honestly the best thing to offer would be to just say to every American adult and emancipated youth, you get 4k for not going to work or going out for the next month. Only have grocery/drug stores stay open. Keep everything at a bare minimum. It would be a huge debt. But we're gonna see losses almost that high anyway.
    How are grocery stores and pharmacies gonna stay open without suppliers staying open? We're just gonna have to ride this out. So far, the mortality rate in the US is about the lowest in the world among countries with confirmed cases. Unless we start creeping up to Italy numbers, we're gonna have to ride it out.

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    Laboratories around the country are now facing potential shortages of key materials and chemicals needed to run tests for the novel coronavirus, as cases spread to more than two-thirds of the states and the global pandemic strains testing resources even further.

    Some lab directors say they are already beginning to run low of the supplies needed to extract RNA from nasal swabs, a crucial initial step that is separate from the millions of test kits that the federal government has promised to ship to every state. Others say they are weighing whether to borrow some materials from other research labs that aren’t involved in creating or running coronavirus tests.

    And some lab directors are worried about the future availability of the reagents, or chemical ingredients, used in the tests themselves. Several labs have also said that they have had trouble getting virus samples that are needed to validate the tests to make sure they are properly identifying positive samples.

    Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the C.D.C., told Politico on Tuesday that the agency was keeping an eye on the supply of materials needed to do the tests. But, when asked how the agency would deal with a shortage of RNA extraction kits, he said: “I don’t know the answer to that question.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/h...gtype=Homepage

    Hopefully, these logistical problems are getting some high-level attention.
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    The question needs to be asked: is it U.S. government policy to slow walk testing?

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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/11/polit...est/index.html



    Heres a list of all the fake news coming from Trumps White House over the virus. It absolutely key in these situations to have a leader with credibility.
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    WORTH REPEATING: In 2018, Trump fired the entire US pandemic response team.

    These were the experts with decades of experience dealing

    with precisely the kind of situation we are in today.

    Trump did not replace them.

    He eliminated the positions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Judd Legum

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    WORTH REPEATING: In 2018, Trump fired the entire US pandemic response team.

    These were the experts with decades of experience dealing

    with precisely the kind of situation we are in today.

    Trump did not replace them.

    He eliminated the positions.


    http://popular.info/p/unprepared
    This cant possibly be stated enough. I would guess their cost was extremely minor considering the trillion dollar deficits. I have been saying for a long time now that he was making short sighted moves to boost an already good economy and it was going to bite us in the ass eventually. He was just gambling he could keep it going while he was in office and hoping the crash would happen after he leaves so he can complete the Economic Jesus narrative he wants to use as a campaign issue. In good economic times we should reduce the deficit and in bad times we should spend more. Thats how you balance the economy. If we had been running 500 billion debt instead of 1 trillion we would have a lot of wiggle room to help bail out all these people and businesses that could go broke from this. What are we going to do now, run a 2 trillion deficit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chosen One View Post
    I wonder now if Trump is using Pence as a scapegoat for the response and use this as an excuse to get him off the ticket.

    I am now going to arbitrarily place the odds of this at 51% and rising. After watching a recent Pence interview I think this is more likely than not. I know what there is a 0% chance of, and thats Trump taking any responsibility for anything bad.
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    We're all democratic socialists in a pandemic...






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    So when exactly are coronavirus tests going to be widely availabe?l
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    My Dad is 65 with smokers lung who nearly died a few months ago from pneumonia and is an avid Trump supporter. He refuses to take ANY precaution because its all a media hoax. But hey, when he dies I can finally go to Law School. Not even going to ask my elderly family in Louisiana who are rabid Trump supporters. This is why Trump is dangerous and should not be President through this crisis.
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    Brazilian represenative who met with Trump and Pence tests positive for Coronoavirus. Maybe I should vote for Coronavirus since I have no representation in the 2020 election now that its Biden and Trump. Would be such a shame.....
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    It’s not surprising that a country that treats health care as a commodity to be mined for profit is woefully inadequate at responding to a crisis that demands a robust and organized public health response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    It’s not surprising that a country that treats health care as a commodity to be mined for profit is woefully inadequate at responding to a crisis that demands a robust and organized public health response.
    Fauci said it. We are simply not set up to provide the kind of extensive publicly funded testing that other countries are. Just not set up to do it. We should have some humility and try to learn from this.

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    Lol...

    Brazilian rep met both Trump and Pence. Trump has it.
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