The Coronavirus, not the beer

[Metaphysicist]

I don't know; I'm not going to point by point refute everything posted by a confirmed internet troll. I already spend enough time here with thethe.

But I will say that whatever that data is, it doesn't support his overall point about the tradeoffs between shutting down and not shutting down. The death tolls are in the 5 figures already with full suppression, regardless of the guesses about bed counts were. You can't look at the suppression numbers and say "this wasn't worth shutting down the economy." That's disingenuous at best.

[sturg33]

I don't know; I'm not going to point by point refute everything posted by a confirmed internet troll. I already spend enough time here with thethe.

But I will say that whatever that data is, it doesn't support his overall point about the tradeoffs between shutting down and not shutting down. The death tolls are in the 5 figures already with full suppression, regardless of the guesses about bed counts were. You can't look at the suppression numbers and say "this wasn't worth shutting down the economy." That's disingenuous at best.

And that's fine. We can draw our own conclusions based on data. He does a good job in my opinion of providing data that is not frequently reported elsewhere.

I dont need him to make my conclusions for me.

[Metaphysicist]

I see this guy is also pushing thethe levels of "don't believe the numbers."

Are you ****ing kidding me, sturg?

[thethe]

I see this guy is also pushing thethe levels of "don't believe the numbers."

Are you ****ing kidding me, sturg?

What did Dr. Brix say today?

[Metaphysicist]

And that's fine. We can draw our own conclusions based on data. He does a good job in my opinion of providing data that is not frequently reported elsewhere.

I dont need him to make my conclusions for me.

I would request you not post him here, at least.

[sturg33]

I see this guy is also pushing thethe levels of "don't believe the numbers."

Are you ****ing kidding me, sturg?

Which numbers?

That there are way more infected people than reported? Thus lowering the death rate? I dont see how this is disputable, or least quite rational

That hospitals are calling any patient who dies with covid as a covid death, thus likely inflating the death count? Are you disputing that?

Those are two of his opinions I tend to agree with.

What were you referring to specifically?

[thethe]

Which numbers?

That there are way more infected people than reported? Thus lowering the death rate? I dont see how this is disputable, or least quite rational

That hospitals are calling any patient who dies with covid as a covid death, thus likely inflating the death count? Are you disputing that?

Those are two of his opinions I tend to agree with.

What were you referring to specifically?

Do not question anything or else you are a conspiracy right wing MAGA nut.

How did we get to this point when some topics of conversation are off limits?

[Metaphysicist]

That hospitals are calling any patient who dies with covid as a covid death, thus likely inflating the death count? Are you disputing that?

Those are two of his opinions I tend to agree with.

Then you are well on your way to being a COVID truther. There is a nugget of truth underlying this, but it just isn't that significant. Like all good conspiracy theories.

[thethe]

Then you are well on your way to being a COVID truther. There is a nugget of truth underlying this, but it just isn't that significant. Like all good conspiracy theories.

This is how the left tries to control thought and speech.

Disgusting

[sturg33]

Then you are well on your way to being a COVID truther. There is a nugget of truth underlying this, but it just isn't that significant. Like all good conspiracy theories.

You're not doing a great job describing the WHY of your posts.

I've thought for weeks that its possible covid is taking lives of people who were susceptible to other illnesses.

I'd like to see the combined numbers of all illness deaths this year, so we might draw some conclusions of overlap.

I'm not sure why this is crazy or unreasonable... but it definitely isn't the mainstream viewpoint so I get that it's easy to discredit

[thethe]

Easier to dismiss something than admit you are wrong.

Very consistent trend here.

[Metaphysicist]

I've thought for weeks that its possible covid is taking lives of people who were susceptible to other illnesses.

Uh... this is not new information. That's literally like the first thing anyone knew about it.

[sturg33]

Uh... this is not new information. That's literally like the first thing anyone knew about it.

So what is so conspiratorial about my posts that you have dismissed without explaining why?

[nsacpi]

I'd like to see the combined numbers of all illness deaths this year, so we might draw some conclusions of overlap.

Have you seen the numbers from Italy and Spain. Excess deaths this year relative to past years. Ultimately that will tell you what the deal is.

[Runnin]

man

i'm about to get ripped tonight and listen to a lot of Prine

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...if heartaches were commercials, we'd all be on TV.

[sturg33]

Have you seen the numbers from Italy and Spain. Excess deaths this year relative to past years. Ultimately that will tell you what the deal is.

I haven't. Care to share?

[Runnin]

Easier to dismiss something than admit you are wrong.

Very consistent trend here.

The opposite is also true. Old people dying of Covid who were never tested, never went to hospital and thus never counted as Covid deaths.

[nsacpi]

[thethe]

The opposite is also true. Old people dying of Covid who were never tested, never went to hospital and thus never counted as Covid deaths.

Can you provide any source that confirms this is happening and some estimate of that number?

[sturg33]

Interesting. Do we have US numbers?