The Coronavirus, not the beer

[sturg33]

You'll always find liberals here mentioning things they didn't like Obama doing.

You would be very hard pressed to find thethe or krg do the same for Trump.

We get it sturg, you being the omniscient libertarian here allows you to stand on the sideline and critique both sides.

Do you think Cuomo has done a good job managing this crisis?

[The Chosen One]

Wow...its almost as if facts and circumstances never change.

Weird

Does that also explain why Trump's rally around the flag bump didn't last very long why his numbers went down?

Or is that due to the CCP?

[The Chosen One]

Do you think Cuomo has done a good job managing this crisis?

That's a really vague question.

[thethe]

Does that also explain why Trump's rally around the flag bump didn't last very long why his numbers went down?

Or is that due to the CCP?

I've said in this very thread that trump has been a disaster in this thread. He let people push him around and is in effect a coward.

We should have opened weeks ago.

[sturg33]

Does that also explain why Trump's rally around the flag bump didn't last very long why his numbers went down?

Or is that due to the CCP?

No its bc Trump has not handled this well at all. After a decent start it's gone very down hill in his embrace of stupidity tyrannical lockdowns

[The Chosen One]

I've said in this very thread that trump has been a disaster in this thread. He let people push him around and is in effect a coward.

We should have opened weeks ago.

You said for a while in this thread Trump has played this perfectly.

[thethe]

You said for a while in this thread Trump has played this perfectly.

Hmm...again. Facts and circumstances dont change over time in your world?

[The Chosen One]

No its bc Trump has not handled this well at all. After a decent start it's gone very down hill in his embrace of stupidity tyrannical lockdowns

What could Trump have done better you think?

[sturg33]

That's a really vague question.

I just read it several times and cant comprehend how its vague.

I'll ask you a super clear one that I know you'll understand.

"Do you think Trump has done a good job managing this crisis?"

[The Chosen One]

Hmm...again. Facts and circumstances dont change over time in your world?

Of course they do. But I have to be convinced then change is concrete. Not an outlier.

[nsacpi]

I applaud Cuomos transparency and communication.

But his policies have been disastrous.

Yall can never seem to understand the difference between words and policies. It's why Trump has permenant residence in your head. It's why yall think Obama was amazing while he locked kids in cages.

But re Cuomo, I believe someone just said 'ze outcomes are ze outcomes'

Yeah. I'm good with comparing NY and Alabama.

But they do have a significant policy difference. Cuomo has pushed for very aggressive testing and NY is one of the states testing at a higher rate per capita. I think Rhode Island is the only state that has tested more per capita. From poorly chosen one, I sense an ambivalence about testing.

[thethe]

Yeah. I'm good with comparing NY and Alabama.

But they do have a significant policy difference. Cuomo has pushed for very aggressive testing and NY is one of the states testing at a higher rate per capita. I think Rhode Island is the only state that has tested more per capita. From poorly chosen one, I sense an ambivalence about testing.

Because testing is not an effective use of resources with a highly contagious disease. This isnt hard.

[The Chosen One]

I just read it several times and cant comprehend how its vague.

I'll ask you a super clear one that I know you'll understand.

"Do you think Trump has done a good job managing this crisis?"

It is vague.

If someone asks me did I play well today on the tennis court, it's all relative. Maybe I played well in some places and sucked in others.

How exactly are we quantifying or qualifying someone managing a crisis well? Well relative to Trump? Relative to DeWine? Relative to DeSantis?

[sturg33]

Because testing is not an effective use of resources with a highly contagious disease. This isnt hard.

Itll be a great excuse to enforce draconian policies though!

[sturg33]

It is vague.

If someone asks me did I play well today on the tennis court, it's all relative. Maybe I played well in some places and sucked in others.

How exactly are we quantifying or qualifying someone managing a crisis well? Well relative to Trump? Relative to DeWine? Relative to DeSantis?

Has Trump done a good job?

[nsacpi]

That's a really vague question.

He's done a better job than poorly chosen one. About that I don't think there can be much doubt. Just the fact that he hasn't recommended anyone drink bleach is a pretty major difference.

[nsacpi]

Because testing is not an effective use of resources with a highly contagious disease. This isnt hard.

Huh? Well i do have to say your version of received wisdom is um how shall i put it...idiosyncratic.

[thethe]

Huh? Well i do have to say your version of received wisdom is um how shall i put it...idiosyncratic.

I guess the multiples of confirmed to real cases have been lost on you.

[thethe]

Itll be a great excuse to enforce draconian policies though!

That's the whole point. It's easy to see why test and trace is pointless.

[thethe]

He's done a better job than poorly chosen one. About that I don't think there can be much doubt. Just the fact that he hasn't recommended anyone drink bleach is a pretty major difference.

Yeah trump putting contagious patients in with the elderly was a terrible move.