There are thousands of coronaviruses out there. Six have made the jump to humans.
It will happen again. Making the investment to greatly ramp up testing capacity ought to be a no brainer.
There are thousands of coronaviruses out there. Six have made the jump to humans.
It will happen again. Making the investment to greatly ramp up testing capacity ought to be a no brainer.
Runnin (05-01-2020)
goldfly (05-01-2020)
Runnin (05-01-2020)
From the Imperial College model website. I think this graph applies to many countries. It shows the disaster that was unfolding and how much a few days mattered around mid-March. Whatever has happened here and elsewhere in April, it would have been much much worse if the mid-March measures (and the spontaneous ones are very important) had not been implemented.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
This one for Germany also tells an important story.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
BedellBrave (05-01-2020)
14,434 new cases in Sweden in the past seven days
20,560 in the prior 7
that's pretty good
oops that's Italy
Here is Sweden
3,451 in the past 7 days
4,327 in prior 7
also pretty good
In the United States, we've seen an increase in the last 7 days compared to the prior 7.
Last edited by nsacpi; 05-01-2020 at 12:04 PM.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Here’s what’s happening in my view.
Lockdown or no lockdown doesn’t really impact social mobility all that much. People in general are going to social distance as a general rule until they feel safe.
If we can allow people to feel safe in a restaurant or at the beach then we should allow them the choice to do so. It’s going to result in a moderately higher case count in all likelihood, but we have medical capacity to spare.
The discourse around this is so strange. There is this impression that people are like cattle locked in their homes by these orders. What Sweden has shown is that people are generally good at self policing when they understand the risks.
And then there is this (PRE-PRINT WARNING)
Vitamin D deficiency linked to higher risk of fatal COVID outcome. (Preprint awaiting peer review)
https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-21211/v1
Last edited by chop2chip; 05-01-2020 at 12:40 PM.
I'm sympathetic to letting people choose what kind of risks they expose themselves to.
But there is the small matter of externalities. Actually it is not such a small matter. When I go out and sit down to dinner I incur X dollars worth of risk. But I am exposing others I encounter to 4X dollars worth of risk by having sat down at a restaurant. Some people will internalize that risk to others. Many will not.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
If we opened every restaurant in the country right now, how many of them would even meet 25% capacity? Anecdotally, Sweden is showing that people are practicing social distancing without government enforcement.
At some point we have to allow people to make choices again (with restrictions of course). We are no longer overwhelming hospitals. What’s the difference between opening up now versus July?
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Still making the same mistakes