The Coronavirus, not the beer

[nsacpi]

Everything wrong with the IHME model in one article.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2...-ihme-pandemic

[zitothebrave]

There are dumb Trump supporters in every state. 30% of Bernie's own VT voted for him. This is not an interesting observation.

I mean I could argue even more simply I could find 100 dumb people in a given city to rally for or against anything I want them to with the right groundswell and execution.

[Metaphysicist]

This article is just lying. It first links to the model and completely mischaracterizes what the IC said in march about Sweden's transmission rate, which whatever. BUT THEN, it links to a paper not from IC, but from some actual Swedes who made some crappy graphs, and then says "this is what IC said and it was wrong." Once again sturg's skeptical media consumption is a unidirectional failure.

Here is the current IC model on Sweden: (link)

[Metaphysicist]

As I posted earlier the protests in California and to a lesser extent Michigan has been marginally effective in changing orders

Great.

[nsacpi]

Imperial College report on Italy

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imp...-Report-20.pdf

[goldfly]

If during this time

We let. People go bankrupt

We are literally, as a country/society, making a choice to allow it

If we didn’t want that to happen

We wouldn’t let it happen

It ain’t hard to understand

[The Chosen One]

If during this time

We let. People go bankrupt

We are literally, as a country/society, making a choice to allow it

If we didn’t want that to happen

We wouldn’t let it happen

It ain’t hard to understand

Sounds like you're proposing some good ole fashioned tyranny.

[goldfly]

The commentary was that large protesters are breaking out in blue states.

I feel you’re reaching by saying “large”

But you identify with these people being oppressed

So, i get why you would want to inflate the movement

It’s like what the president does/lies about when talking about his popularity

[goldfly]

Sure, if looking out for a fellow countryman and making sure they don’t go bankrupt and lose everything during a crisis

Is tyranny

Then let’s bring in your “old fashioned tyranny”

Instead of the horse**** freedom boy claims is tyranny



edit: sorry, was on the phone and thought it was freedom boy that said that

[sturg33]

If during this time

We let. People go bankrupt

We are literally, as a country/society, making a choice to allow it

If we didn’t want that to happen

We wouldn’t let it happen

It ain’t hard to understand

...what?

[sturg33]

Sounds like you're proposing some good ole fashioned tyranny.

I noticed yall whistled past the cops beating the **** out someone for not social distancing.

Or the mayor saying they will definitively put people in jail for having a party

[Metaphysicist]

I noticed yall whistled past the cops beating the **** out someone for not social distancing.

Or the mayor saying they will definitively put people in jail for having a party

NYPD is full of pieces of ****, news at 11.

[goldfly]

what aren't you understand?

like every other western country during this time, people are being protected so they don't go bankrupt

here they aren't

well, sorry, they get $1200

it's a choice, that we have decided, to let people go bankrupt during this pandemic

[sturg33]

NYPD is full of pieces of ****, news at 11.

Yeah but I mean they weren't social distancing so...

[sturg33]

what aren't you understand?

like every other western country during this time, people are being protected so they don't go bankrupt

here they aren't

well, sorry, they get $1200

it's a choice, that we have decided, to let people go bankrupt during this pandemic

The government is forcing business owners to shut down their business against their free will

[goldfly]

i remember when republicans/conservatives would tell black people that got beat and killed by cops

"if you just followed what the cop said, none of that would have happened"

what has changed for them since those times?

do blue lives not matter as much now?

we know all lives don't matter now

[Metaphysicist]

Yeah but I mean they weren't social distancing so...

Literally no one is defending that, so it is a dumb point. That’s how NYPD polices certain neighborhoods and why they are awful. Not something new. Very unlikely it actually had anything to do with enforcing distancing based on the video and the fact that the cops where immediately trying to blame weed.

[goldfly]

yes, i know

and then doing nothing to make sure they don't go bankrupt

thus the choice we have made to let them go bankrupt

have you caught up yet?

or do you think the 5th time i say it you will understand we as a country are allowing it to happen cause we choose to allow it to happen?

how many in eruope or new zealand or canada etc are losing their business cause a mandatory shut down? i bet it's not comparable to here

is that cause those societies don't allow that to happen?

[nsacpi]

Those of us in the forecasting bidness know that it is usually a good idea to take the average of different forecasts. Here's an article that looks at what goes into the different models and takes the average.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/covid-forecasts/

[The Chosen One]

Modern Day Authoritarianism