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    Meta - what do you think to yourself on this issue knowing that you were dead wrong and a dumb/uncivilized/maga supporting person was right?

    All that education and you can't think. You should request a refund.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I foresee a breakup in your future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I foresee a breakup in your future.
    Nope - Her father took a turn for the better once he started taking Palenquil/Z-pac.

    I wonder who suggested that?
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    I watched a 9th inning replay of a Braves 2018 game --- down 5 in 9th to Marlins and Dansby had a walk off single
    Reminded me, we still have a lot of game left in this pandemic
    Just sayin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    I watched a 9th inning replay of a Braves 2018 game --- down 5 in 9th to Marlins and Dansby had a walk off single
    Reminded me, we still have a lot of game left in this pandemic
    Just sayin'
    Yeah - The countries/states that embraced a lockdown have a low uninfected population percentage relative to their population density.

    It will catch up to them in the fall while places like Sweden mostly likely won't have a second wave
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    I watched a 9th inning replay of a Braves 2018 game --- down 5 in 9th to Marlins and Dansby had a walk off single
    Reminded me, we still have a lot of game left in this pandemic
    Just sayin'
    Yet another poster outwardly hoping for more pain

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    Wht is New York still closed?

    Can the party of science start using data and evidence to make decisions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Wht is New York still closed?

    Can the party of science start using data and evidence to make decisions?
    They stopped caring about the data once it showed this wasn't as bad as feared.

    Its been clear since the end of March but it became a Trump adjacent issue.
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    This thread is definitely going dark

    Too much positive news.

    What a damn shame you guys were hoping for death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Yeah - The countries/states that embraced a lockdown have a low uninfected population percentage relative to their population density.

    It will catch up to them in the fall while places like Sweden mostly likely won't have a second wave
    Sweden seroprevalence 5%

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Sweden seroprevalence 5%
    Source please
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    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    You're still making the same mistakes.

    You're clearly intelligent. Seems to be bad faith at play here
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    To go through the by now familiar math.

    Sweden population 10 million.

    Seroprevalence rate late April 5%.

    People infected late April 500,000.

    Official COVID deaths at the end of April: 2,700.

    Excess mortality data suggests it needs to be adjusted up by about a third. This gets you to 3,600 COVID deaths by end of April.

    Gives you an IFR of 3,600 divided by 500,000 or 0.7%.

    Which jives with what we see elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    To go through the by now familiar math.

    Sweden population 10 million.

    Seroprevalence rate late April 5%.

    People infected late April 500,000.

    Official COVID deaths at the end of April: 2,700.

    Excess mortality data suggests it needs to be adjusted up by about a third. This gets you to 3,600 COVID deaths by end of April.

    Gives you an IFR of 3,600 divided by 500,000 or 0.7%.

    Which jives with what we see elsewhere.
    Man - Still using the wrong assumption on infection rate as of that day based on antibody testing.

    Why?
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    I do expect the IFR to tick down (in Sweden and elsewhere) going forward. Doctors are learning. Nursing homes are learning. Governments are learning. Best practices are improving. But I don't think it goes from .7 to .01. It will move from .7% in the first half of this year to around .5% in the second half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Man - Still using the wrong assumption on infection rate as of that day based on antibody testing.

    Why?
    I'm assuming a cumulative infection rate from the seroprevalence rate. You can play with the lags some if you want. Lags are a thing. But they don't get you out of the reality that in Sweden and pretty much everywhere else there are a yuge number of people yet to be infected.
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    Stockholm at 7% seroprevalence in late April is a fact.
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Stockholm at 7% seroprevalence in late April is a fact.
    That doesn't mean that total infection rate for the region is 7% and you know that.
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