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    Antibodies to the new virus may last only two to three months in the body, especially in people who never showed symptoms while they were infected, according to a study published on Thursday.

    The new study, published in Nature Medicine, looked at only 37 people who did not show symptoms when infected, but it is the first to offer a characterization of the immune response in such people.

    It suggests that asymptomatic people mount a weaker response to the virus than people who develop symptoms. And within weeks, antibody levels fall to undetectable levels in 40 percent of asymptomatic people and 13 percent of symptomatic people.

    “That is a concern, but I’d point out that these are pretty small group sizes,” said Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University in New York who was not involved in the work. She also noted that immune cells would continue to offer protection even in the absence of antibodies.

    “Most people are generally not aware of T cell immunity and so much of the conversation has focused on antibody levels,” she said.

    Still, the results offer a strong note of caution against the idea of “immunity certificates” for people who have recovered from the illness. If levels of immunity decrease so soon after illness, the authors suggest, people who have had the infection once might fall ill a second time.

    Antibodies to other coronaviruses, including those that cause SARS and MERS, are thought to last about a year. Scientists had hoped that antibodies to the new virus might last at least as long.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/w...gtype=Homepage
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Antibodies to the new virus may last only two to three months in the body, especially in people who never showed symptoms while they were infected, according to a study published on Thursday.

    The new study, published in Nature Medicine, looked at only 37 people who did not show symptoms when infected, but it is the first to offer a characterization of the immune response in such people.

    It suggests that asymptomatic people mount a weaker response to the virus than people who develop symptoms. And within weeks, antibody levels fall to undetectable levels in 40 percent of asymptomatic people and 13 percent of symptomatic people.

    “That is a concern, but I’d point out that these are pretty small group sizes,” said Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University in New York who was not involved in the work. She also noted that immune cells would continue to offer protection even in the absence of antibodies.

    “Most people are generally not aware of T cell immunity and so much of the conversation has focused on antibody levels,” she said.

    Still, the results offer a strong note of caution against the idea of “immunity certificates” for people who have recovered from the illness. If levels of immunity decrease so soon after illness, the authors suggest, people who have had the infection once might fall ill a second time.

    Antibodies to other coronaviruses, including those that cause SARS and MERS, are thought to last about a year. Scientists had hoped that antibodies to the new virus might last at least as long.

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    Well if it didn't make you sick the first time, why would it a 2nd time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Well if it didn't make you sick the first time, why would it a 2nd time?
    A ton of reasons... maybe your immune system was boosted more the first time for one

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    A ton of reasons... maybe your immune system was boosted more the first time for one
    After thinking about it, I think the concern would be spreading it again, not getting sick

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    the prior coronaviruses are fairly different in how long immunity has lasted...some just a few months...one a couple years...it is one of the big unknowns about SARS-CoV-2
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    An entire thread of the amazing double standards of our fire fighting media

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    An entire thread of the amazing double standards of our fire fighting media
    You and thethe are a walking double standard

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    You and thethe are a walking double standard
    Do tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Do tell
    free speech is one area where I detect some indications of hypocrisy
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    free speech is one area where I detect some indications of hypocrisy
    That's your imagination.

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    When white militia types with guns intimidate other people tryin to exercise their rights your outrage doesnt flow as freely
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    When white militia types with guns intimidate other people tryin to exercise their rights your outrage doesnt flow as freely
    I'm cool with peaceful protesting.

    To be clear, you condemn all intimidation tactics, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    I'm cool with peaceful protesting.

    To be clear, you condemn all intimidation tactics, right?
    Of course
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    Ha, right

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Do tell
    It’s speckled throughout this entire thread pretty clearly for all to see

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    Especially use of military helicopters to clear a peaceful crowd for a photo op

    I think anyone who is sincerely concerned about rights and liberties would have been all over that
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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    It’s speckled throughout this entire thread pretty clearly for all to see
    Good answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Especially use of military helicopters to clear a peaceful crowd for a photo op

    I think anyone who is sincerely concerned about rights and liberties would have been all over that
    I've said multiple times that Trump doesnt support free speech and that peaceful protesters should never be assaulted. I've also said people dont have a right to destroy property and hurt people.

    You just choose not to listen.

    You're too busy still reading endless essays on russia or Ukraine

    You've basically turned into 57. OM broke you

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Especially use of military helicopters to clear a peaceful crowd for a photo op

    I think anyone who is sincerely concerned about rights and liberties would have been all over that
    yep

    the past few weeks showed his true colors on these matters

    he's still bitching about twitter

    while a president and gov't attacked peaceful american citizens and not a bit of outrage that was anywhere close to his pitty parties for the fraud
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