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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    Look at what I said again.
    Fair.

    There is plenty of reason to believe that there is erroneous and inaccurate data being reported.

    Cases are exploding and deaths continue to decrease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Catch GLARING issues.

    You know...like a 98% positivity rate.
    you seem to be pretty good with decimals, so I will take your word for it
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    That was one such issue where a decimal poi t wasn't the issue bit sure...believe these were honest errors at DOZENS of hospitals.
    This issue definitely should be investigated, and the numbers should be checked. Not by the government. They have every reason and motive to lie and twist the truth, and they have shown over and over again that they will do just that. I honestly find it awfully convenient that we find all this out right when the government desperately needs control of the numbers. Funny how this sort of thing keeps working out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    you seem to be pretty good with decimals, so I will take your word for it
    Hurts you everyday how often I've been right compared to your positions the past few years.

    Keep living in OMB world because he puts AMERICANS first.
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    I wish someone would actually put all of us first. That would be great. Sure isn't happening right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    I wish someone would actually put all of us first. That would be great. Sure isn't happening right now.
    What moves would be considered looking out for all of us from your perspective?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    What moves would be considered looking out for all of us from your perspective?
    During this or in general?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    During this or in general?
    I assumed you were referring to covid
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I assumed you were referring to covid
    I actually meant period, but I do think our health is completely secondary to the people in control.

    I personally would have every state form a scientific coalition, and then each state's coalition would combine to form a response team. That team would collect and analyze the data and release a strategy for minimizing the damage until we get a vaccine. This would include general information and state specific information. Politicians should not be involved. This should be like on a starship in Star Trek. The doctor has taken control during this health crisis. I think that would be the best we could get. Not perfect, but certainly better than what we have now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    I actually meant period, but I do think our health is completely secondary to the people in control.

    I personally would have every state form a scientific coalition, and then each state's coalition would combine to form a response team. That team would collect and analyze the data and release a strategy for minimizing the damage until we get a vaccine. This would include general information and state specific information. Politicians should not be involved. This should be like on a starship in Star Trek. The doctor has taken control during this health crisis. I think that would be the best we could get. Not perfect, but certainly better than what we have now.
    Giving decision making power to someone who isn't beholden to the voters is a losing proposition in a constitutional Republic.

    Just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    What would motivate so much false reporting?
    The same thing that could motivate the administration the other way. Are you even serious with this crap? You have to be trolling now. Given their continual blatant dishonesty I don’t know how even you can trust that the administration will report the data accurately. You are a political hack and it’s plain to see by everyone except you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    The same thing that could motivate the administration the other way. Are you even serious with this crap? You have to be trolling now. Given their continual blatant dishonesty I don’t know how even you can trust that the administration will report the data accurately. You are a political hack and it’s plain to see by everyone except you.
    So you're saying the falsified reporting is politically motivated?

    ****...we agree!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    So you're saying the falsified reporting is politically motivated?

    ****...we agree!
    If it was found to be on purpose then of course I agree they need to be held accountable. It’s not about politics to me like your weird partisan ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    If it was found to be on purpose then of course I agree they need to be held accountable. It’s not about politics to me like your weird partisan ass.
    I want clean data. Thats political?

    Do you realize just how costly a wrong decision is right now? How many lives are at stake?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I want clean data. Thats political?

    Do you realize just how costly a wrong decision is right now? How many lives are at stake?
    And the fact that you think you’re going to get clean data from this administration is beyond comical given their history. But you know that. It’s only about politics for you.

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    Keeping the data public keeps corruption at bay. The whole reason these errors were caught was because the data was public. There are no checks and balances for one of the most corrupt administrations we’ve ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    And the fact that you think you’re going to get clean data from this administration is beyond comical given their history. But you know that. It’s only about politics for you.
    We have absolutely zero clue what the process will be. What we know is the data in the public space is already corrupted. Cases exploding and deaths decreasing. The lag is coming to an end to explain the disparity.
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    At least two states purposefully didnt count negative tests.

    Other states are counting multiple positive tests to same patients to the cumulative positive cases

    And then the Florida story was inexcusable.

    All of these mistakes fed the fear porn, though

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    At least two states purposefully didnt count negative tests.

    Other states are counting multiple positive tests to same patients to the cumulative positive cases

    And then the Florida story was inexcusable.

    All of these mistakes fed the fear porn, though
    People pretending the data could be worse isnjust more political posturing. There is a clear attempt to make the situation seem worse than it is to keep us locked down.

    Now why would some people want that? It couldn't have to do with Nov 4th could it?
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    Kinda comical that Mr. Marx McCarthy wants a corrupt administration to control the data privately and cheer it. I hope the irony isn’t lost on anyone because it’s very funny stuff you can’t even make up.

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