The Coronavirus, not the beer

[sturg33]

Correct. Here is his methodology.

1) Invite viewers to self report these so-called incidents

2) Accept the claims at face value

That is as far from investigative journalism as is possible to get.

What if Rachel Maddow invited her viewers to report cases where relatives died of covid but were not counted as covid deaths, and she just accepted everything her viewers reported back at face value. It would rightly be considered some sort of joke.

Or someone went to Portland and started asking people if any of them had been improperly arrested by the federal forces. And simply treated any and all such claims as true. Also a joke.

That kind of "reporting" doesn't get past the news editor at a high school newspaper.

Are you ever gonna comment on the faulty lab reported numbers?

Why would they do that?

[nsacpi]

Are you ever gonna comment on the faulty lab reported numbers?

Why would they do that?

nice attempt at a pivot

but i've never made the claim that all the data are perfect...i'm privy to some of the work being done to check the data for mistakes...it is an enormous undertaking to clean up the mistakes and i'm sure not all of them are fixed

[nsacpi]

Wow, that's one of the weakest replies I've seen in this thread, and that's saying something.

yeah...he's always been a below average poster, but his game has gone into sharp decline the last few weeks...it is sad watching this kind of cognitive decline unfold in real time...i believe he is only in his 30s...hopefully there is someone in his life who can help him out

[goldfly]

when fox news tries to rebrand "we report, you decide"

presents only facts in them, and let's viewers make up their mind.

[goldfly]

Ben Swann is one of the best media personalities I've ever seen.

You know what he did in that video? He INVESTIGATED internet rumors and labs who manipulated their data.

I know that is not something a journalist is supposed to do anymore, so I forgive you for being thrown off there

media personality

lol

INVESTIGATED

lol

[nsacpi]

media personality

lol

INVESTIGATED

lol

how can anyone post stuff like that...maybe i'm misreading him...he might be some sort of genius troll

[sturg33]

nice attempt at a pivot

but i've never made the claim that all the data are perfect...i'm privy to some of the work being done to check the data for mistakes...it is an enormous undertaking to clean up the mistakes and i'm sure not all of them are fixed

They didn't make mistakes. The lied

[sturg33]

yeah...he's always been a below average poster, but his game has gone into sharp decline the last few weeks...it is sad watching this kind of cognitive decline unfold in real time...i believe he is only in his 30s...hopefully there is someone in his life who can help him out

You've gone into straight up censorship mode for opinions you don't like.

I think I can handle my decline in your broken mind lol

[nsacpi]

They didn't make mistakes. The lied

who lied

[sturg33]

Labs who chose not to report negative results.

Why do you play dumb?

[nsacpi]

Labs who chose not to report negative results.

Why do you play dumb?

I'm just trying to understand your point. Why are they lying.

[nsacpi]

SHORTLY AFTER WE REPORTED that Rep. LOUIE GOHMERT (R-Texas) had tested positive for Covid-19, we got an email from one of his aides saying this:

“JAKE, THANK YOU for letting our office know Louie tested positive for the Coronavirus. When you write your story, can you include the fact that Louie requires full staff to be in the office, including three interns, so that ‘we could be an example to America on how to open up safely.’ When probing the office, you might want to ask how often were people berated for wearing masks.”

https://www.politico.com/newsletters...testing-489917

the recurring combination of farce and tragedy that is the GOP

[nsacpi]

"I caught Covid from wearing a mask too much." Louie Gohmert

[nsacpi]

the Brazilian experience with HDQ

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/29/ameri...ntl/index.html

[nsacpi]

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/a...id-in-us-dies/

[Runnin]

As I think I mention before, one of my English students is the head Covid doctor in a city in Hiroshima, not because he was a coronavirus specialist but because he was the lead surgeon for lung diseases at his hospital. His hospital, where I used to teach pre-Covid, was designated the Covid treatment hospital for this area.

I asked out of curiosity if his hospital or any other in Japan used hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19 treatment. His answer was unambiguous - "Hydroxychloroquine is not used for treatment of Covid 19 in Japan."

FWIW

[nsacpi]

As I think I mention before, one of my English students is the head Covid doctor in a city in Hiroshima, not because he was a coronavirus specialist but because he was the lead surgeon for lung diseases at his hospital. His hospital, where I used to teach pre-Covid, was designated the Covid treatment hospital for this area.

I asked out of curiosity if his hospital or any other in Japan used hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19 treatment. His answer was unambiguous - "Hydroxychloroquine is not used for treatment of Covid 19 in Japan."

FWIW

did he say this in English or Japanese

[Carp]

Ge sourced people on the rump and got hundreds of first hand accounts. Why do you dismiss hundreds of first hand accounts?

He also asked the very simple question about lab reporting being manipulated. To date, you and others haven't touched this subject on this board.

He made no conclusions... he presented a set of people who are experiencing very odd behavior in civil tracking. It would be great if we had fire fighting journos looking into this more... bc states are making lockdown decisions based on top line case counts

Because I prefer facts, not rumors. First hands accounts = internet rumors. It's like you don't know that people lie on the internet. Anyone can send in information. Investigation actually begins when you try to verify those claims. Saying "Here's a list of everyone who says they got a false positive" is doing nothing but putting a list together. And the lab reporting being manipulated that he "reported on" was just footage from an ACTUAL investigative report that wasn't his own. And I'm pretty sure that story was from April or May. And it doesn't have anything to do with actual positive cases since negative tests were the ones not being reported (which seems more like a failure to understand policy than simply manipulation).

[Carp]

Labs who chose not to report negative results.

Why do you play dumb?

And this affects how many positive cases there are in exactly which way?

[Runnin]

did he say this in English or Japanese

English. I paraphrased. The actual quote was "We don't use hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid-19 in Japan."