Runnin (08-01-2020)
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I've never said you have to respect viewpoints. Awful beliefs should be opposed. I'm just against dehumanizing people because of their beliefs and thinking they deserve death or other bad things.
If there's a Nazi on the street corner yelling about evil Jews, he should be opposed. He doesn't deserve death because of his beliefs though.
There's a difference between those with terrible beliefs and those who commit terrible acts. There's a reason the law requires mens rea and actus reus for a crime (generally speaking). For someone to deserve punishment there must be criminal intent and a criminal act.
Fernandez is less sympathetic but his death is no less sad. His life was cut short and his family and friends left devastated. It's just as sad.
I agree with wanting to be left alone. I don't partake in marijuana myself but see no reason why I should be able to tell you that you can't in your own home. However I believe I should treat others how I expect to be treated. That means since I want to be left in peace with my beliefs I should leave others in peace with theirs.
I think it all anecdotal, too. The only reason people are still talking about the drug is because the guy in the WH, who doesn't know beans about any of it, politicized it from the start. The CDC, who does know something and can speak intelligently about such issues, even when they're wrong, should've been doing the press conferences, to keep wild speculations at a minimum.
Orange One politicized HCQ the same way he politicized the lockdown, opening up the economy and returning to school. Any topic he touches become a toxic.
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Politicization of Covid has been awful. You're seeing it play out in Georgia over mask mandates. I honestly think the last thing the fight between Kemp and Bottoms is about is public health. It's about a turf war, scoring political points, and in Kemp's case, not getting primaried.
Any Sweden updates?
Sure
Denmark released their unemployment rate for June. It is now falling!
FINLAND's unemployment rate also fell in June.
Sweden's is still rising.
Of the Scandinavian countries, Sweden has the highest unemployment rate, the largest increase in unemployment rate since January, and of course a number of deaths that is a large multiple of the others.
Sweden has managed the nifty feat of having both an economic outcome and an epidemiological outcome much worse than their Scandinavian neighbors. Bravo!
Last edited by nsacpi; 08-01-2020 at 09:10 AM.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
I'm glad they have reported 0 deaths in last few days.
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Florida over 1,200 deaths the past 7 days.
And the people getting sick there are not skewing as young as they were a month ago.
Last edited by nsacpi; 08-01-2020 at 10:58 AM.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
This is dumb. Almost everyone contributes to their own death in some form or another. Heart disease is the number one cause of death in America, and it is largely preventable. Did these people "get what was coming to them" because they lived an unhealthy lifestyle? What about someone that forgot to buckle up and died in a car crash? Did they deserve to die? Was their death any less tragic than someone who dies from ALS or breast cancer?
Of course not. And it's absurd you would suggest otherwise
And yes you are a terrible person for wishing death on a war hero that refused to leave fellow POWs and someone that got tortured for months in the name of his country.
Last edited by Carp; 08-01-2020 at 11:11 AM.
And yet, those countries will likely end up with a far better outcome than Sweden when this is over. The best play was ALWAYS to limit the spread and find out more about the virus and the best ways to treat it and search for a vaccine. Japan and Australia will almost assuredly have a better death rates because they now have a better idea on how to treat the virus.
Some excess death data (March 15-July 19). July data likely to be revised.
NY City: excess mortality 27,100, covid deaths 22,900, gap 4,200
NY State (ex city): 14,200, 9,300, 4,900
NJ: 18,000, 15,700, 2,300
Florida: 8,500, 4,900, 3,600
Texas: 11,200, 4,000, 7,200
California: 12,100, 7,700 4,400
United States: 190,600 139,900 50,700
Last edited by nsacpi; 08-01-2020 at 11:32 AM.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
Worth noting that Texas hospitalizations (graph below) rose to slightly over 10,000. In NY they peaked at almost 20,000, with a much steeper ascent, reflecting population density and high usage of public transportation.
Last edited by nsacpi; 08-01-2020 at 12:25 PM.
"I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."
"I am your retribution."
well this is just clearly a clash of morals. I cant fathom why you think its heroic to sign up to murder innocent people in their homeland. Damn right he deserved to be tortured. If a Vietnamese person came here trying to kill us he deserves the same damn thing. McCain's whole life he has tried to create a narrative around himself to appeal to people like you for political gain. I think by applying my moral standard it does not matter what time frame you were born in, you would never be a part of something abhorrent like slavery or Nazism. I think your morality is highly influenced by what you consider socially acceptable and therefore are highly susceptible to propaganda and indoctrination. Would you atleast agree that Muhammed Ali was a more moral person than John McCain for refusing to kill? Beyond that you tell me what gives John McCain the moral right to kill Vietnamese people in their home? Because the government said it was okay? Just following orders is not an acceptable excuse. The worst atrocities are always morally oblivious people carrying out orders. Governments need people like you. You are only a little propaganda away from being a guard at a concentration camp.
"Donald Trump will serve a second term as president of the United States.
It’s over."
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