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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    There wont be any discussion on this. We will be told to stop being a conspiracy theorist and we ate supposed to just keep the status quo. You know the saying now....restoration.

    As if that is a good thing based on what we have learned the last 4 years.
    There won't be any discussion because their is no controversy. Pretty much everyone agrees that China is awful re: Taiwan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    There won't be any discussion because their is no controversy. Pretty much everyone agrees that China is awful re: Taiwan.
    Thats not the the topic of the discussion that needs to be had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    Don't care.
    Because you were wrong?

    Because you don't understand how that impacts the Math?

    Or both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Thats not the the topic of the discussion that needs to be had.
    Yes it is. Taiwan isn't in the WHO because China won't let them be. It's not this guy's decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Because you were wrong?

    Because you don't understand how that impacts the Math?

    Or both?

    Because it doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    lol, "basic calculus".

    "Basic calculus" tells you I can look at the last 2 weeks and see whether deaths are currently exponentially increasing or not, whether the slope is changing, whether there is acceleration or deceleration. The first day it arrived in Italy has no effect on that.
    It gives context to the data since you are only looking at a subset.

    Are you even aware you are only looking at a subset of the data?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    Yes it is. Taiwan isn't in the WHO because China won't let them be. It's not this guy's decision.
    It prevents him from discussion Taiwan as if they don't exist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    Because it doesn't matter.
    Thank you for showing how you completely don't understand what is happening.

    Well done.

    All that education and you can't handle basic science/math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    It gives context to the data since you are only looking at a subset.

    Are you even aware you are only looking at a subset of the data?
    Great, it will give me context. It will not change the slope or acceleration of the past 2 weeks.

    **** off with your "subset of the data" like you even know what you are talking about. Let's say Coronavirus arrived in Italy in 1996. It has been killing 1 person per day since then and we just never knew, and it somehow stayed isolated and never became widespread. But then in late February 2020, the death rate exploded in exactly the same way it did in real life. How would that change literally anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    Great, it will give me context. It will not change the slope or acceleration of the past 2 weeks.

    **** off with your "subset of the data" like you even know what you are talking about. Let's say Coronavirus arrived in Italy in 1996. It has been killing 1 person per day since then and we just never knew, and it somehow stayed isolated and never became widespread. But then in late February 2020, the death rate exploded in exactly the same way it did in real life. How would that change literally anything?
    Because the subset of data gives you no idea to gauge where the top is. Jesus christ you just have no clue how to analyze function.
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    That answer is completely contentless. Explain what would change.

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    For starters it's impossible for it to have been here that long.

    We are learning about its rate of transmission so your hyperbolic example is meaningless in almost every way other then again demonstrating how clueless you are on this topic.

    But the top of the curve changes dramatically based on when the seed infections started and just how many arrived. So the fact you dont care is just well...alarming.

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    A couple of my Tibetan and Uighur friends asked me to say hello to those of you who have suddenly realized China aint so great.
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    A couple of my Tibetan and Uighur friends asked me to say hello to those of you who have suddenly realized China aint so great.
    It's been obvious for a long LONG time.

    Communism is never a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    For starters it's impossible for it to have been here that long.

    We are learning about its rate of transmission so your hyperbolic example is meaningless in almost every way other then again demonstrating how clueless you are on this topic.

    But the top of the curve changes dramatically based on when the seed infections started and just how many arrived. So the fact you dont care is just well...alarming.
    It is also likewise impossible for the virus to have been widespread in Italy for 4 months and then only in February see an exponential explosion of deaths. Your theory and mine are equally plausible.

    If the seeds arrived 4 months ago but people didn't start dying in noticeable numbers until February then it would be clear they wouldn't have been actually infecting people based on the same R0 as you see once the virus is widespread (or alternately you think there is a multi-month incubation period). That means you have 2 separate functions. So yeah, I care about what is happening now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    Yes it is. Taiwan isn't in the WHO because China won't let them be. It's not this guy's decision.
    The WHO proven during this time they are a joke. Their credibility is disgraced and I'm glad we dont take order from them

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    The WHO isn't the New World Order. I don't think we were ever at risk of "taking orders" from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    A couple of my Tibetan and Uighur friends asked me to say hello to those of you who have suddenly realized China aint so great.
    Its concerning that American media has gone to bat for them during this pandemic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphysicist View Post
    The WHO isn't the New World Order. I don't think we were ever at risk of "taking orders" from them.
    I've seen constant criticism from media and this board about Trumps resistance to work with WHO

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