our government sucksOriginally Posted by sturg33
our government sucks
acesfull86 (10-26-2020), Dalyn (10-26-2020)
So masks and washing hands worked for one contagious virus at almost 100% prevention and not the other where its spreading exponentially all over the world? Thats your position?
Natural Immunity Croc
Everything is insane until its undeniable. Plenty of proof out there that this was created in a lab and knowing the ccp it was released intentionally
Natural Immunity Croc
There is not. In fact, there is plenty of evidence to the contrary.
It is part of the reason. There are many other factors at play. For one, and this is a HUGE one in the USA, people are not going to work sick (if they know). People are staying home when they have a fever or just feel ****ty, and that is not something that happens a lot here. PLENTY of people have to work sick to survive. Also, when people get tested for Covid, they are being offered a free flu vaccine. More people than ever are getting the vaccine. So many factors at play. SO many.
Evidence to the contrary released by the CCP. You have fun believing that.
Meanwhile the CCP censured the research paper early on from their main university and are threatening the family of the most recent t whistle-blower.
Natural Immunity Croc
Yes. And part of the reason when comparing how effective masks have been to stop covid shouldn't have blunted the spread of the normal flu.
Even if it did in your world the effective elimination of the flu is unreconciable with the attributes of the flu in comparison to covid.
Natural Immunity Croc
That's not at all what I am talking about.
lol I personally know 4 people who have tested positive for the flu since Covid. There were a reported 29 million cases in this past season (in the USA alone), which included a couple months of Covid, and a new season has started.
Another day in NYC... another Jewish institution targeted.
Literal Hitler 2.0
As goldy assures us, it woulda closed anyway
Sweden doing OK, it seems?
If only I could live in California...
Yes + 90% of every decision made by the government during this situation
i think my favorite is taking my restaurant closing quote about how a lot of the first ones that close would most likely be ones that would already close down sometime this year
has been used to say any and all business moving forward lol
it's examples like this why i call you a fraud
but glad you have finally got to "doing nothing and letting the virus run wild will greatly affect the economy" though
Last edited by goldfly; 10-26-2020 at 05:02 PM.
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Will be telling in the next couple of weeks there as they are starting to spike with cases. Hopefully the death rate stays the same for them.
I'll chime in with the observation that FINLAND and Norway are the most logical countries to compare Sweden to. Those three countries are very similar in having small households and low population density. To compare Sweden to Italy, which has an older population, much higher population density and a significantly larger average household size, makes less sense.
Geography (all 3 are on the same peninsula), weather, culture are also very similar for FINLAND, Norway, Sweden. All three have very good health care systems and populations with relatively low rates of the risk factors that contribute to covid mortality.
Of course we know what the comparison shows. Deaths per capita in Sweden are much higher (10 times Norway's). They are higher in April, they are higher in the June to September period, when deaths tapered off in all three countries. It will be interesting to see if they remain higher for Sweden going forward. I assume all three countries have learned from each other's experiences and there will be a convergence in policy and outcomes going forward. But maybe not.
Last edited by nsacpi; 10-26-2020 at 07:09 PM.
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cajunrevenge (10-26-2020)
Did everyone in France stop wearing masks, nsacpi?
A few months ago we saw cases go up in places like Hawaii, Australia, New Zealand, Japan. The sheeple places.
This was cited by the usual suspects around here as proof that the approaches used in those countries, including wearing of masks, was ineffective.
It was a silly argument then and remains silly now.
What we have is a disease whose spread is affected by many factors.
One is weather and seasonality.
Another is the natural tendency for a population to let their guard down when things seem to improving.
Those are probably the two main reasons why cases have risen so sharply in Europe (and in parts of this country too).
No one (as far as I know) has argued that mask wearing eliminates the spread of the disease. It reduces it to a certain extent. But the ups and downs of rates of infection are affected by a lot of variables.
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