To put things in perspective, if someone that has COPD contracts COVID, has severe symptoms, and tragically dies, thethe believes that person shouldn't qualify as a COVID death, even though that person was reasonably likely to still be alive had they never contracted COVID.
What in my post is inconsistent with that?
Natural Immunity Croc
I have nothing left to do but facepalm at this time. I'll give you this, you have an uncanny ability to drag people into cyclical arguments of which you're clearly wrong but have zero desire to admit it.
There are cases where the line gets fuzzy. For example, my great aunt was in the last stages of Alzheimer's and in hospice care when she contracted Covid and died from it. Is that a Covid death? It's recorded as one even though she would have, at best, lasted another month or two.
So there's a good argument to be made that someone who has a disease that has put them on their death bed but who is pushed over the edge by Covid didn't really die from Covid but from the disease that already had them on the edge in the first place.
That's not to say that any co-morbidity should remove a death from being Covid related. You can suffer from a disease that makes you very susceptible to dying from Covid and yet still have decades of life ahead of you if you can avoid catching Covid. These people should absolutely be considered Covid deaths.
Suffice to say it's not always a clear line as to what is a Covid death and what is not.
changing the "day to day paradigm" probably greatly reduced the number of flu deaths...so the excess death numbers in all likelihood understate covid deaths
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"I am your retribution."
If you aren’t skeptical of how we killed flu deaths to effectively zero while it had little to no impact on covid deaths then I’m sure your numbers will show what you want.
But then you also have suicides/Alzheimer’s/lack of cancer screenings among other things that are getting wrapped up in this figure.
My final question would be can you explain what an excess death in excess of the covid reported number that would represent an unreported covid death?
Where are these people dying in the US without a hospital intervention that does testing for covid?
Last edited by thethe; 03-10-2021 at 02:53 PM.
Natural Immunity Croc
Got my first shot today
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
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Mouth got pretty dry but other than that ok it seems
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
we have had both, Pfizer
we slept after the second.
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