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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I'm allergic to doctors too. But as I've gotten older certain people in my life have staged various interventions to get me to go see them more often.
    My feelings are also starting to change but inly because now I'm supporting someone else and hopefully a little one in the near future. All of a sudden my own beliefs are irrelevant in the grand scheme of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    New York’s coronavirus death toll in nursing homes, already among the highest in the nation, could actually be a significant undercount. Unlike every other state with major outbreaks, New York only counts residents who died on nursing home property and not those who were transported to hospitals and died there.

    For all 43 states that break out nursing home data, resident deaths make up 44% of total COVID deaths in their states, according to data from the Kaiser Family Foundation. Assuming the same proportion held in New York, that would translate to more than 11,000 nursing home deaths.

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    Lets remember...Cuomo doesn't feel the need for independent review of his own investigation.

    This is the man that is held up as a great leader.

    What say you Carp or will you just ignore this?

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    Whose going to try Putins vaccine?

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    Lets review the US performance against the world considering that democrat ran countries were the worst in the world.

    Looks like Republicans are the answer moving forward for the safety and security of the American people.

    Anyone have a fact based retort countering this narrative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    New York’s coronavirus death toll in nursing homes, already among the highest in the nation, could actually be a significant undercount. Unlike every other state with major outbreaks, New York only counts residents who died on nursing home property and not those who were transported to hospitals and died there.

    For all 43 states that break out nursing home data, resident deaths make up 44% of total COVID deaths in their states, according to data from the Kaiser Family Foundation. Assuming the same proportion held in New York, that would translate to more than 11,000 nursing home deaths.

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    Lets remember...Cuomo doesn't feel the need for independent review of his own investigation.

    This is the man that is held up as a great leader.

    What say you Carp or will you just ignore this?
    I find it extremely unlikely that nearly 15% of all nursing home patients in NY state died.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I find it extremely unlikely that 15% of all nursing home patients in NY state died.
    You find it unlikely that the state which handled the crisis the worse and is deliberately lying about nursing home deaths could have killed 15% of its elderly hursing home population?

    At least you don't claim this is a conspiracy anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You find it unlikely that the state which handled the crisis the worse and is deliberately lying about nursing home deaths could have killed 15% of its elderly hursing home population?

    At least you don't claim this is a conspiracy anymore.
    Yes, I find it extremely unlikely that nearly 15% of all nursing home patients died from COVID.

    And yes it most certainly is purely conspiracy theory nonsense at this point. Your entire premise is built on comparing NY's % to the rest of the population and extrapolating out the numbers from there. You're literally taking information you don't have and making assumptions based off it. That's the very definition of a conspiracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Hell take away all the states and the US has ZERO deaths. Problem solved!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Yes, I find it extremely unlikely that nearly 15% of all nursing home patients died from COVID.

    And yes it most certainly is purely conspiracy theory nonsense at this point. Your entire premise is built on comparing NY's % to the rest of the population and extrapolating out the numbers from there. You're literally taking information you don't have and making assumptions based off it. That's the very definition of a conspiracy.
    I guess now AP news is a conspiracy site?

    I'm shocked at how obtuse you're being on this issue. This is 100% a factual story and ill be waiting to hear your response once the true numbers are released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Hell take away all the states and the US has ZERO deaths. Problem solved!!
    How abojt we replace them all with Florida's or Texas?

    Then what? I'll tell you what you candy ass!

    America would have performed as one of rhe best in the world.

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    Darn nsacpis gonna have to update that nursing home map he is so fond of

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Darn nsacpis gonna have to update that nursing home map he is so fond of
    Its now a conspiracy to say cuomo didn't mask nursing home deaths.

    Its amazing how often the accusers of the original conspiracy end up beinf the ones that peddled the true lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I guess now AP news is a conspiracy site?

    I'm shocked at how obtuse you're being on this issue. This is 100% a factual story and ill be waiting to hear your response once the true numbers are released.
    Is it worth investigating? Sure. But that isn't what you're actually doing. You're taking what is presented as a possibility (again based purely on comparing averages) and passing it off as fact. This is why no one takes you seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    How abojt we replace them all with Florida's or Texas?

    Then what? I'll tell you what you candy ass!

    America would have performed as one of rhe best in the world.

    Sure. Let's take the numbers from the states who had 4 months to prepare and compare them to states that had zero time to prepare. That seems perfectly acceptable. LOL GTFOH with that BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Sure. Let's take the numbers from the states who had 4 months to prepare and compare them to states that had zero time to prepare. That seems perfectly acceptable. LOL GTFOH with that BS.
    Or how about we remove the ones that were encouraging sibway use and parties in China town when we all knew the virus was here.

    For someone who claims they were republican you sure do anything possible to defend incompetent democrats.
    Natural Immunity Croc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Is it worth investigating? Sure. But that isn't what you're actually doing. You're taking what is presented as a possibility (again based purely on comparing averages) and passing it off as fact. This is why no one takes you seriously.
    It is a fact that new york was the only state that didn't count nursing home deaths if tbr resident died in a hospital.

    It is incredible you are not seeing this.

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    If the nursing home deaths in NY are 11,000, then only NJ and NY states have more deaths than NY LTC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Or how about we remove the ones that were encouraging sibway use and parties in China town when we all knew the virus was here.

    For someone who claims they were republican you sure do anything possible to defend incompetent democrats.
    I don't claim to be Republican. I am conservative on most issues, but I could not care less about the letter following the person's name. OO encouraged the same type of activity and you give him a total pass. ****, the man can be solely blame for the death of Herman Cain and who knows how many others for the rally he held in Tulsa, OK during the height of their outbreak. Yet you remain silent on that.

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