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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    Misrepresenting posters is poor form, and shows the weakness of your trollness.

    I never cheered any violence against anyone. I believe I did say something about rioting being understandable and predictable. Claiming that I was cheering for it is dishonest and an outright lie.

    You are still,as you have been for years, a bad faith poster who should be ignored by everyone.
    You said they had it coming.

    Several posters called you on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    Misrepresenting posters is poor form, and shows the weakness of your trollness.
    Calling it his calling card isn’t a good enough way of describing him this way

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    You said they had it coming.

    Several posters called you on it
    Who had it coming? Small businesses?

    I don't think rioting helps anything, but voices that are ignored will eventually erupt. That's still true.
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    Last edited by nsacpi; 09-22-2020 at 04:26 PM.
    "I am a victim, I will tell you. I am a victim."

    "I am your retribution."

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    Yeah lockdowns kill

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    Just need to extend this pain a little while longer. Almost made it to the finish line


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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post

    Lockdowns kill


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    Even at this late data it bears repeating some basic facts about the Nordic Saga

    Deaths per million

    Sweden 575
    Denmark 109
    FINLAND 61
    Norway 50

    Why do we compare these countries? Cuz it is an apples to apples comparison. They have similar demographics. Small households. Similar economics. Similar on healthcare standards. Experienced roughly similar initial outbreaks in terms of timing and intensity. Similar population density.

    We can compare Sweden and Italy. But such a comparison only makes sense when controlling for variables such as timing and intensity of initial attacks, demographics, population density, etc. Sweden has a lot of advantages over Italy when looking at those variables. Yet deaths per million is pretty similar. 575 in Sweden. 590 in Italy. We think of Italy as having had a horrendous experience. Yet deaths per capita in Sweden are almost the same in spite of many inherent advantages.

    Of course, Los Estados Unidas has blown by both Sweden and Italy in terms of deaths per capita, and deaths here are still rising at a pretty good clip, but that's another story.
    Last edited by nsacpi; 09-22-2020 at 08:52 PM.
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    How is comparing the YoY excess mortality for Sweden not the most appropriate apples to apples comp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    How is comparing the YoY excess mortality for Sweden not the most appropriate apples to apples comp?
    588 vs 528 (with the 2020 number likely to get revised up given the data are incomplete)

    60

    or 600 per million.

    That's NOT a good number. Much higher than other Scandinavian countries.

    However, OURS is indeed worse.

    259,000 excess deaths out of a population of 327 million.

    Comes out to 792 per million. And still rising at a good clip. Simply horrific.

    We're going to end this year with over 400,000 excess deaths.

    If covid-19 follows the usual seasonal pattern of other coronoviruses and flu viruses, we're going to be well over 600,000 excess deaths by March of next year.

    Not the flu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    588 vs 528

    60

    or 600 per million.

    That's NOT a good number. Much higher than other Scandinavian countries.

    However, OURS is indeed worse.

    259,000 excess deaths out of a population of 327 million.

    Comes out to 792 per million. Horrific.
    The 6 year average is 570... that number went up to 588 the year of global pandemic that has killed hundreds of thousands... that is a 3% increase over the 6 year average... and not the worst year of the 6 years, which was 2015.

    This is the country who embraced science.

    I don't understand why the party of science is running from it. Actually... of course I understand why

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    However, OURS is indeed worse.

    259,000 excess deaths out of a population of 327 million.

    Comes out to 792 per million. And still rising at a good clip. Simply horrific.

    We're going to end this year with over 400,000 excess deaths.

    If covid-19 follows the usual seasonal pattern of other coronoviruses and flu viruses, we're going to be well over 600,000 excess deaths by March of next year.

    Not the flu.
    You do not have to convince me that the US ****ed this up...

    Well, some of it at least.

    We know which states have been hit the hardest. The ones who locked the most, the ones who took away the most freedom... lead the way in death and joblessness.

    Meanwhile... if compare 2020 in Sweden with other similar bad flue years...



    I hope the leftist states who are killing their citizens begin to embrace the science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    You do not have to convince me that the US ****ed this up...

    Well, some of it at least.

    We know which states have been hit the hardest. The ones who locked the most, the ones who took away the most freedom... lead the way in death and joblessness.

    Meanwhile... if compare 2020 in Sweden with other similar bad flue years...



    I hope the leftist states who are killing their citizens begin to embrace the science.
    what do the blue data show? deaths from flu or deaths from all causes?
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    Anyhow 11 times as many Swedes per capita have died than Norwegians. I guess that counts for something.
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    48,206 cases today. Highest since August 21.

    We squandered valuable time during the second quarter when we could have gotten into better shape for schools to re-open.

    And now we are squandering an opportunity to take care of business before flu season hits.

    No one has handled this perfectly. It is a tough problem. But we have been a special kind of incompetent.
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    Lol

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    "We need more testing!!"

    "Look at all these cases!!!!"

    Rinse. Repeat

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    meanwhile... whatever could it be?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    WHY?????

    asks the California newspaper

    seriously though... WHY???????????

    Can we consult the party of science?

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    The US announced 309 deaths yesterday.

    Nsacpi wants to point to cases.

    November 3rd can't get here soon enough

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