The Coronavirus, not the beer

[goldfly]

Why do you want people to die?

still love this quote when i think about his cult leader not allowed a medical expert to answer a question about it's safety etc

haha

[thethe]

still love this quote when i think about his cult leader not allowed a medical expert to answer a question about it's safety etc

haha

The medical expert was wrong on the models and he is causing people to die by slow walking this treatment .

Your side wants people to die to hurt Trump because you have a zombie candidate with almost no chance of winning.

Its a disgrace and people should be held accountable.

[cajunrevenge]

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/5/2120880...rs-masks-march


Probably should start with the President who failed to mass order n95 masks until mid-March. Dont worry, they arent due to be delivered until the end of April.... since you call everything you dont like fake news I assume you will support the investigation into the response so fake news like this will be exposed.... oh wait no you will cry bitch and moan the entire time about how everything's a conspiracy against you.

[Runnin]

Is this the article in question?

We could be vastly overestimating the death rate for COVID-19. Here's why



*A lack of adequate testing means many of those who have been infected with the coronavirus will not appear in official statistics.

*This suggests that many estimates for its mortality rate are much too high.

*We need to build better systems for sharing and reporting data.

Public health epidemiology is the science of counting to prevent disease and promote health. We count the number of new cases of a particular disease; this is the incidence. Then we count how much a disease has spread in a population; this is the prevalence.

When it comes to COVID-19, counting is a challenge. Despite all the news articles and reports, we know very little about the incidence or prevalence of this new disease. And as is always the case: ignorance breeds fear. In my hometown of New York City and elsewhere one fear is on just about everyone’s mind: death rates here appear to be considerably higher than rates reported elsewhere.

It would be great if tests for the virus and the antibodies were widely available and people could know one way or the other.

[Runnin]

The medical expert was wrong on the models and he is causing people to die by slow walking this treatment .

Your side wants people to die to hurt Trump because you have a zombie candidate with almost no chance of winning.

Its a disgrace and people should be held accountable.

That is flat out wrong and worst than that, wrong-headed. You should be ashamed for accusing people on this board of such inhumanity.

[Runnin]

What’s coming: An epidemiologist speaks plainly

.. although social distancing measures have been (at least temporarily) well-received, there is an obvious-but-overlooked phenomenon when considering groups (i.e. families) in transmission dynamics.

While social distancing decreases contact with members of society, it of course increases your contacts with group (i.e. family) members. This small and obvious fact has surprisingly profound implications on disease transmission dynamics.

Study after study demonstrates that, even if there is only a little bit of connection between groups (i.e. social dinners, playdates/playgrounds, etc.), the epidemic trajectory isn’t much different than if there was no measure in place. The same underlying fundamentals of disease transmission apply, and the result is that the community is left with all of the social and economic disruption, but very little public health benefit.

You should perceive your entire family to function as a single individual unit; if one person puts themselves at risk, everyone in the unit is at risk.

Seemingly small social chains get large and complex with alarming speed.

If your son visits his girlfriend, and you later sneak over for coffee with a neighbor, your neighbor is now connected to the infected office worker that your son’s girlfriend’s mother shook hands with.

[cajunrevenge]

That is flat out wrong and worst than that, wrong-headed. You should be ashamed for accusing people on this board of such inhumanity.

We know he is projecting. That's how he felt about Obama so he thinks that's how Democrats think of Trump.

[thethe]

That is flat out wrong and worst than that, wrong-headed. You should be ashamed for accusing people on this board of such inhumanity.

To not support hydroxychloroquine is akin to wanting people to die.

[thethe]

What’s coming: An epidemiologist speaks plainly

.. although social distancing measures have been (at least temporarily) well-received, there is an obvious-but-overlooked phenomenon when considering groups (i.e. families) in transmission dynamics.

While social distancing decreases contact with members of society, it of course increases your contacts with group (i.e. family) members. This small and obvious fact has surprisingly profound implications on disease transmission dynamics.

Study after study demonstrates that, even if there is only a little bit of connection between groups (i.e. social dinners, playdates/playgrounds, etc.), the epidemic trajectory isn’t much different than if there was no measure in place. The same underlying fundamentals of disease transmission apply, and the result is that the community is left with all of the social and economic disruption, but very little public health benefit.

You should perceive your entire family to function as a single individual unit; if one person puts themselves at risk, everyone in the unit is at risk.

Seemingly small social chains get large and complex with alarming speed.

If your son visits his girlfriend, and you later sneak over for coffee with a neighbor, your neighbor is now connected to the infected office worker that your son’s girlfriend’s mother shook hands with.

We ran into an immunity wall.

[nsacpi]

Daily death count in NY state:

3/25 75
3/26 100
3/27 134
3/28 209
3/29 237
3/30 253
3/31 332
4/1 391
4/2 432
4/3 563
4/4 630
4/5 594

For the United States

3/25 225
3/26 253
3/27 433
3/28 447
3/29 392
3/30 554
3/31 821
4/1 940
4/2 1,075
4/3 1,186
4/4 1,352
4/5 1,175

[cajunrevenge]

Cool, if it goes down again I guess we can assume that was the peak.

[cajunrevenge]

To not support hydroxychloroquine is akin to wanting people to die.

Trump should try some to show us how safe it is. What's he got to lose.

[thethe]

Daily death count in NY state:

3/25 75
3/26 100
3/27 134
3/28 209
3/29 237
3/30 253
3/31 332
4/1 391
4/2 432
4/3 563
4/4 630
4/5 594

For the United States

3/25 225
3/26 253
3/27 433
3/28 447
3/29 392
3/30 554
3/31 821
4/1 940
4/2 1,075
4/3 1,186
4/4 1,352
4/5 1,175

Looks like a peak starting to form - Rate of change in death rate plummeting. Rate in hopsitalizations plummeting.

How many weeks behind Italy and Spain are we again?

[Runnin]

To not support hydroxychloroquine is akin to wanting people to die.

[nsacpi]

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said he will declare a state of emergency Tuesday to cover seven prefectures, including Tokyo and the city of Osaka, most severely affected by the coronavirus outbreak, but promised no lockdowns like those implemented elsewhere.

“The period will be for one month as a rough estimate, and this declaration is issued in order to ask for more cooperation from the public to reduce as much as possible people-to-people contact that could lead to infections, and to establish the medical system to deal with the situation,” he said.

Abe said he would also announce an “unprecedented” economic rescue package Tuesday equivalent to around 20 percent of the gross domestic product.

“We must keep protecting employment,” he said. “Even though we will declare a state of emergency, we will not lock cities down as has been done overseas,” Abe said, adding that the government aimed to maintain as much economic activity as possible.

Under the state of emergency, people will be asked to refrain from going outdoors, but no legal penalties will be imposed for noncompliance. Companies may be asked to tell employees to work from home, and schools may be closed, but trains will continue to run and supermarkets will stay open.

Infections have begun to rise sharply in Japan during the past two weeks, with around 360 new cases found on Sunday, bringing the reported number of people who have contracted the virus to 3,865, with 93 deaths, not including cases and fatalities from the Diamond Princess cruise ship.

Abe has been under growing pressure from the medical profession and general public to declare a state of emergency. Tokyo is by far the worst-affected region, and its hospitals are already struggling to cope with more than 950 people hospitalized with the virus already.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...s-latest-news/

Looks like Japan will try to suppress while maintaining much more of its economy open. They will be an interesting experiment to watch.

[thethe]

We should open up immediately.

This has gone far too long.

There is no data that shows staying home make any sense

[cajunrevenge]

And if we do and **** gets worse to the point of having to return to lockdown? Would you blame Trump at that point?

[Runnin]

We ran into an immunity wall.

People in rural MS have a wall of immunity?

[nsacpi]

And if we do and **** gets worse to the point of having to return to lockdown? Would you blame Trump at that point?

The piece of information we badly need is how fast it is spreading. R naught. If you have a reliable estimate for it you have a chance of weighing costs versus benefits. Without it you are flying by the seat of your pants.

[Runnin]

The worst thing would be to stop business with a shelter in place and then people still transmit it. Then start back with businesses and then have to stop it again.