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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    The worst thing would be to stop business with a shelter in place and then people still transmit it. Then start back with businesses and then have to stop it again.
    I assume any reopening will be accompanied by extensive contact tracing. I'm wondering if we are gearing up to do that. How expensive it is. How feasible it is if the number of infections remains high. I would think infections have to come down quite a bit from current levels for contact tracing to become feasible.

    Anyhow for anyone currently looking for a job, there is a vast expansion in testing and contact tracing that is just ramping up and it will employ a lot of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    The worst thing would be to stop business with a shelter in place and then people still transmit it. Then start back with businesses and then have to stop it again.
    We will never have to redo a lockdown if we make the right policy decisions.

    People at risk should restrict movements. Build herd immunity.

    Hopspitalization rate is very low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    We will never have to redo a lockdown if we make the right policy decisions.

    People at risk should restrict movements. Build herd immunity.

    Hopspitalization rate is very low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    If Old Man If was dead and stiff I'd be a millionaire.
    We already made one good policy decision and that was the 4 week quarantine.

    Now its time to use the data we have and make better decisions than the stupid one to stay in for April.

    Whatever the alternative is the April stay at home was the worst one given
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    But we were assured that China was taking a global lead and helping the world while Trump bungled this up

    Seriously, these were some of the takes in this thread

    You all need to do some soul searching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    But we were assured that China was taking a global lead and helping the world while Trump bungled this up

    Seriously, these were some of the takes in this thread

    You all need to do some soul searching.
    can you show an example of these takes
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    can you show an example of these takes
    I'm too fed up with you guys to do that.

    Maybe if I'm bored later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I'm too fed up with you guys to do that.

    Maybe if I'm bored later.
    you will have a hard time finding them...but i hope you continue to enjoy tilting at the windmills
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I'm too fed up with you guys to do that.

    Maybe if I'm bored later.
    You don'T seem to be bored. You fill up every page with your repetitious drivel.

    Have you noticed that you're either posting non-stop or in hiding? I have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunrevenge View Post
    Trump should try some to show us how safe it is. What's he got to lose.
    Lol

    Yes!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    Lol

    Yes!!
    i hear it is highly effective when combined with adderall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    You don'T seem to be bored. You fill up every page with your repetitious drivel.

    Have you noticed that you're either posting non-stop or in hiding? I have.
    Working at home and starting a new job where they can't properly introduce new topics will do it for now.

    But its important to call you guys out for how you get EVERYTHING wrong.
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    NYC has reported approximately 65,000 cases and 2,475 deaths as of yesterday. Of those, 1,535 (62%) had confirmed underlying medical conditions (Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immunodeficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney Disease, and GI/Liver Disease). ONLY 30 DEATHS IN NYC WERE SUFFERED BY PEOPLE UNDER THE AGE OF 65 WITH NO UNDERLYING CONDITION AND ONLY 7 WERE IN MANHATTAN.

    My friend and his wife and two young daughters have been forced to exist within his apartment in NYC for 15 days. The numbers reported reflect there is a .046% rate of death on confirmed cases (excluding cases so mild they were never diagnosed) for people under 65 without a known medical condition in NYC. As of 2016 (the last numbers I could find), 86% of NYC's population was under 65. Here is the kicker… statistically they appear to have a higher probability of being murdered (23 murders occurred in NYC in January 2020 alone) than of dying from Wuhan Flu.

    How long will that 86% permit fear to keep them in isolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OcalaBrave View Post
    NYC has reported approximately 65,000 cases and 2,475 deaths as of yesterday. Of those, 1,535 (62%) had confirmed underlying medical conditions (Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immunodeficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney Disease, and GI/Liver Disease). ONLY 30 DEATHS IN NYC WERE SUFFERED BY PEOPLE UNDER THE AGE OF 65 WITH NO UNDERLYING CONDITION AND ONLY 7 WERE IN MANHATTAN.

    My friend and his wife and two young daughters have been forced to exist within his apartment in NYC for 15 days. The numbers reported reflect there is a .046% rate of death on confirmed cases (excluding cases so mild they were never diagnosed) for people under 65 without a known medical condition in NYC. As of 2016 (the last numbers I could find), 86% of NYC's population was under 65. Here is the kicker… statistically they appear to have a higher probability of being murdered (23 murders occurred in NYC in January 2020 alone) than of dying from Wuhan Flu.

    How long will that 86% permit fear to keep them in isolation.
    It is a question worth asking. Has any country adopted a strategy of asking the population groups that are vulnerable to this virus to isolate themselves and allowed everyone else to carry on? Has Sweden done something like this?

    I think there are some practical issues. People who work in nursing homes for example. Even though they are not old and sick, presumably they would isolate themselves to protect the old people they care for.

    The other practical issue is that some of the underlying conditions are widespread. Hypertension for example. Apparently even people who keep it under control with medication are a group that is at risk. So if you ask all the old, the obese, the diabetic, etc, to isolate themselves, that becomes a pretty big group as well. Do we make the people who fit in those categories identify themselves in some way?
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    just think how much of the economy we could have kept open if for weeks upon weeks we weren't lied to about tests and the availability of them


    we, possibly, could have been in front of this with mass testing
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    Why would anyone test a tiger for the virus?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OcalaBrave View Post
    NYC has reported approximately 65,000 cases and 2,475 deaths as of yesterday. Of those, 1,535 (62%) had confirmed underlying medical conditions (Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immunodeficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney Disease, and GI/Liver Disease). ONLY 30 DEATHS IN NYC WERE SUFFERED BY PEOPLE UNDER THE AGE OF 65 WITH NO UNDERLYING CONDITION AND ONLY 7 WERE IN MANHATTAN.

    My friend and his wife and two young daughters have been forced to exist within his apartment in NYC for 15 days. The numbers reported reflect there is a .046% rate of death on confirmed cases (excluding cases so mild they were never diagnosed) for people under 65 without a known medical condition in NYC. As of 2016 (the last numbers I could find), 86% of NYC's population was under 65. Here is the kicker… statistically they appear to have a higher probability of being murdered (23 murders occurred in NYC in January 2020 alone) than of dying from Wuhan Flu.

    How long will that 86% permit fear to keep them in isolation.
    just gonna keep remembering all of these type posts when i will continue seeing how pro life people are once we get through this
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