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    And we are going tonjust glance over the WHO bungling of the virus and being bought and paid for by China right?

    They arent representative of the scientific community?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    When a damn letter is issued with multiple scientists the assumption will always be that they are endorsing it using a risk assessment that is grounded in science.
    That letter said "experts" not scientists, did it not? And if people are making an erroneous assumption based on that letter, that's on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    That letter said "experts" not scientists, did it not? And if people are making an erroneous assumption based on that letter, that's on them.
    Experts in what exactly? What should be inferred?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    And we are going tonjust glance over the WHO bungling of the virus and being bought and paid for by China right?

    They arent representative of the scientific community?
    The bought and paid for **** is just more political bull****, and plenty of people and organizations made mistakes in regards to this virus. Scientists aren't perfect, and science itself is constantly evolving and taking steps closer to the truth of a matter and never stops, regardless of how much we think we might know (take gravity for example and the study that is still involved there). It is complete crap to take this situation that has been manipulated and twisted by people in power and try to lay the blame at the feet of the scientists simply trying to do their job. It doesn't surprise me that it is happening, however, since science has always been the favorite target of a certain type of people.

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    My general belief is the less government interference in anything, the better. I think that applies here
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Experts in what exactly? What should be inferred?
    You should check. I certainly check to see what someone is an expert of when they are claiming it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    The bought and paid for **** is just more political bull****, and plenty of people and organizations made mistakes in regards to this virus. Scientists aren't perfect, and science itself is constantly evolving and taking steps closer to the truth of a matter and never stops, regardless of how much we think we might know (take gravity for example and the study that is still involved there). It is complete crap to take this situation that has been manipulated and twisted by people in power and try to lay the blame at the feet of the scientists simply trying to do their job. It doesn't surprise me that it is happening, however, since science has always been the favorite target of a certain type of people.
    Mistakes are different then outright lies and changing of stories.

    How could anyone defend the WHO right now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawking4life View Post
    My general belief is the less government interference in anything, the better. I think that applies here
    Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Mistakes are different then outright lies and changing of stories.

    How could anyone defend the WHO right now?
    I'm defending the scientists who are being scapegoated with this kind of ****, and the science behind them that is being smeared because it doesn't fit a certain agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    I'm defending the scientists who are being scapegoated with this kind of ****, and the science behind them that is being smeared because it doesn't fit a certain agenda.
    The WHO is a reflection of the scientific community. Just like the letter of experts does that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Oh yay.

    UCSUSA doesn't have a political agenda.

    Come on.
    **** linked still happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Sadly, science, like everything else, has become highly partisan and its hard to trust anything now.
    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The WHO is a reflection of the scientific community. Just like the letter of experts does that.
    Science (your original statement) and your perspective of the scientific "community" are two completely different things. The actual science being done by the actual scientists doing it hasn't changed or been corrupted by politics. How it is being twisted by governments is a completely different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    The WHO is a reflection of the scientific community. Just like the letter of experts does that.
    That letter, by the way, said health professionals, not scientists. I dated a health professional for 12 years...trust me when I say that they aren't scientists. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    That letter, by the way, said health professionals, not scientists. I dated a health professional for 12 years...trust me when I say that they aren't scientists. lol
    Right, a health professional could be a nurse. Which not to say nurses are dumb, but I know some dumb nurses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Right, a health professional could be a nurse. Which not to say nurses are dumb, but I know some dumb nurses.
    There are some dumb ****ing nurses.

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    I haven't updated this in a while.

    Deaths per million:

    Italy 574
    Spain 604
    UK 672
    France 462
    Germany 110
    USA 423
    Canada 237
    Sweden 557

    Looking at the data (deaths per million) for just the past two months we have

    Italy 73
    Spain 34
    UK 197
    France 56
    Germany 19
    USA 177
    Canada 106
    Sweden 235
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Right, a health professional could be a nurse. Which not to say nurses are dumb, but I know some dumb nurses.
    An LPN is technically a health professional. I know some LPNs that I wouldn't trust to accurately check my temperature, let alone have a relevant scientific opinion on anything.

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