The Coronavirus, not the beer

[sturg33]

NY still having more deaths than those evil red states but that wont get reported.

[BedellBrave]

As I noted earlier, the big question is whether the large increases in infections among young people eventually seep their way into older more vulnerable populations.

Deaths are going to rise even if the answer is no. But it will be a muted rise.

If the answer is yes deaths are going back to over 1,000 per day in July. I think that is the more likely outcome. >30,000 deaths in July.

That sounds about right -- hopefully not, but...

[nsacpi]

Thanks goldie. Going to try and "visit" my 95 year-old "success" story today. She's now failing quickly. Hoping she has enough wherewithal to talk to me on the phone as I stand outside her window. If she doesn't make it, she will be the third friend to die.

Part of the reason I've got such a large group is due to my travels. Friends all over the world -- Pakistan, Turkey, France, Spain, UK.

I hope your friend pulls through. I thought she had recovered.

My mother has a 95 year old friend who has been living independently in her own house. She volunteered at a hospital into her 90s. The time has finally arrived where she just can't take care of herself and she will be soon moving to a nursing home. Her mind is still very sharp, but she needs an attendant. She is just terrified of what awaits her. The social isolation more than getting sick.

[BedellBrave]

NY New Cases Chart

As a dad having to figure out whether my daughter goes back to NYC in August, this is good to see.

[BedellBrave]

I hope your friend pulls through. I thought she managed to pull through.

My mother has a 95 year old friend who has been living independently in her own house. The time has finally arrived where she just can't take care of herself and she will be soon moving to a nursing home. Her mind is still very sharp, but she needs an attendant. She is just terrified of what awaits her. The social isolation more than getting sick.

Thanks friend. She had -- as far as getting "negative" test results. Afraid though that the ordeal of having gone through it and the continued isolation (no one can go in to see her) though have broken her spirit. I hate the attitude, "well it's mainly just old folks in nursing homes and they are going to die anyway." Up until last year this sweet lady was out in her yard everyday maintaining an perfectly manicured lawn and flowers. This past year in her transition to a nursing home, I enjoyed taking her Chick-fil-A sandwiches, talking about family, holding her hand and praying. It's all so personal.

[nsacpi]

NY New Cases Chart

As a dad having to figure out whether my daughter goes back to NYC in August, this is good to see.

Has the school shared its plan for the fall?

[nsacpi]

NY still having more deaths than those evil red states but that wont get reported.

New York 110 deaths in the past week
Texas 211
Florida 259
Arizona 249

[BedellBrave]

Has the school shared its plan for the fall?

Yep, starting back up. Reduced class sizes. Mandatory wearing of masks. Use of an Oxford model of small groups of students meeting regularly with profs. I like the latter. Our main concerns are her inevitable need to use the subway extensively, living in a locked-down NYC (kind of defeats the beauty of studying/living there), and the potential for further social unrest. Got to pull the trigger on our final decision within a week or so.

[msstate7]

New York 110 deaths in the past week
Texas 211
Florida 259
Arizona 249

NY deaths this past week:
June 22 - 53
June 23 - 46
June 24 - 32
June 25 - 27
June 26 - 48
June 27 - 31
June 28 - 32
Total for week: 269

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/

[nsacpi]

Yep, starting back up. Reduced class sizes. Mandatory wearing of masks. Use of an Oxford model of small groups of students meeting regularly with profs. I like the latter. Our main concerns are her inevitable need to use the subway extensively, living in a locked-down NYC (kind of defeats the beauty of studying/living there), and the potential for further social unrest. Got to pull the trigger on our final decision within a week or so.

I think the subway risk should be mitigated by the mandatory mask wearing. Trains are being disinfected daily. Stations twice a day.

[nsacpi]

NY deaths this past week:
June 22 - 53
June 23 - 46
June 24 - 32
June 25 - 27
June 26 - 48
June 27 - 31
June 28 - 32
Total for week: 269

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/

Fake numbers

the real numbers this past week: 14, 27, 16, 18, 14, 16, 5

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templa..._medical_cases

these are the numbers released by the state daily

[msstate7]

Fake numbers

the real numbers this past week: 14, 27, 16, 18, 14, 16, 5

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templa..._medical_cases

these are the numbers released by the state daily

Your wiki site has 24,835 total NY deaths. NY times and worldometers disagree... both have over 31k deaths.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...rus-cases.html

[nsacpi]

Your wiki site has 24,835 total NY deaths. NY times and worldometers disagree... both have over 31k deaths.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...rus-cases.html

that difference reflects the attributed deaths that occur outside hospitals

the difference from the past week makes no sense...your source simply has the wrong data...I have no idea where those numbers come from...my numbers come from the state of New York....they reported 5 deaths yesterday, 16 the day before, etc

[thethe]

How much longer will the panic crowd continue to show they don't understand data and science?

How will they rationalize a non material dpike in daily deaths?

[msstate7]

that difference reflects the attributed deaths that occur outside hospitals

the difference from the past week makes no sense...your source simply has the wrong data...I have no idea where those numbers come from...my numbers come from the state of New York....they reported 5 deaths yesterday, 16 the day before, etc

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/us-data/

They include the probable deaths reported by NY every day per CDC guidelines

[thethe]

Are probabale deaths now irrelevant because it hurts the leftist talking points? Have we come full circle?

Please tell me its this comical...

[nsacpi]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/us-data/

They include the probable deaths reported by NY every day per CDC guidelines

As long as it is apples to apples I'm fine with the data. So do they include probable deaths for other states? If not it becomes an apples to oranges comparison.

I'm curious about where the probable deaths data for June 28 comes from. Did some government health agency report 27 probable deaths in NY on June 28? Or is this some sort of estimated number? What were probable deaths for the other states (Texas, Florida and Arizona) on June 28?

[sturg33]

Thread on Sweden

[msstate7]

As long as it is apples to apples I'm fine with the data. So do they include probable deaths for other states? If not it becomes an apples to oranges comparison.

I'm curious about where the probable deaths data for June 28 comes from. Did some government health agency report 27 probable deaths in NY on June 28? Or is this some sort of estimated number? What were probable deaths for the other states (Texas, Florida and Arizona) on June 28?

No idea. I was interested in the different reported numbers, so I read through their notes

[nsacpi]

No idea. I was interested in the different reported numbers, so I read through their notes

It seems to me that the data you are using might include probable deaths for NY, but not probable deaths for other states. Which might be why some people mistakenly make the claim that deaths in NY have continued to be higher when in fact they have been significantly lower than in Arizona, Florida and Texas in the past week.