The Coronavirus, not the beer

[thethe]

And again, vaccinating children would help reduce the spread to family members that are at higher risk of dying from Covid.

There is absolutely nothing that says vaccines prevent spread.

SAME VIRAL LOADS.

[thethe]

Again - That Veritas video was shut down real fast.

I'm sure everyone knows someone who had a very bad reaction to the vaccines and for those that are actually at risk of COVID they should still get it.

The rest of us should stop being afraid and get natural immunity the way we have for every respiratory virus in history.

[thethe]

And again, vaccinating children would help reduce the spread to family members that are at higher risk of dying from Covid.

I guess we have to jab children with an experimental treatment to protect the adults who also got the super effective experimental treatment.

Priorities are warped and I think its your view on society that is shaping your stances.

[striker42]

This is complete hogwash with absolutely no basis to make this claim.

Not at all. We know way more about how mRNA works than we do about COVID. This isn't a vaccine that's 1 year in the making, it's a vaccine 30 years in the making. We know the processes of what happens when we inject someone with mRNA.

We still have no clue why some people get asymptomatic COVID and why others die. We're just now starting to see long term effects to the brain.

There aren't nearly as many unknowns with the vaccine as you seem to think there are. There are still a lot of unknowns with Covid.

[thethe]

“It’s not a lot to go on, but what we do have to go on looks great,” said Kathleen Neuzil, director of the Center for Vaccine Development and Global Health at the University of Maryland School of Medicine. “A lower dose of this vaccine in children appears as good as the higher dose in older children and adults.”

Pfizer’s press release did not include any data on the extent to which the vaccine reduced the chances that children would become sick. Gruber said that there were not enough cases of illness to tell. But outside experts said it was reasonable to assume that similar levels of antibodies would mean similar protection from disease.

One worry could be cases of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart, that have been seen, albeit rarely, in adults. These have occurred only once in every tens or hundreds of thousands of vaccine administrations. But no clinical trial is going to be big enough to give an accurate study of such a rare risk.

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Good luck jabbing the most precious things in your life with this. WHEN THEY ABSOLUTELY DO NOT NEED IT!

[thethe]

Not at all. We know way more about how mRNA works than we do about COVID. This isn't a vaccine that's 1 year in the making, it's a vaccine 30 years in the making. We know the processes of what happens when we inject someone with mRNA.

We still have no clue why some people get asymptomatic COVID and why others die. We're just now starting to see long term effects to the brain.

There aren't nearly as many unknowns with the vaccine as you seem to think there are. There are still a lot of unknowns with Covid.

There is absolutely no long term understanding when these are used in humans on a mass scale.

Thats a lie.

[thethe]

“It’s not a lot to go on, but what we do have to go on looks great,” said Kathleen Neuzil, director of the Center for Vaccine Development and Global Health at the University of Maryland School of Medicine. “A lower dose of this vaccine in children appears as good as the higher dose in older children and adults.”

Pfizer’s press release did not include any data on the extent to which the vaccine reduced the chances that children would become sick. Gruber said that there were not enough cases of illness to tell. But outside experts said it was reasonable to assume that similar levels of antibodies would mean similar protection from disease.

One worry could be cases of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart, that have been seen, albeit rarely, in adults. These have occurred only once in every tens or hundreds of thousands of vaccine administrations. But no clinical trial is going to be big enough to give an accurate study of such a rare risk.

Good luck jabbing the most precious things in your life with this. WHEN THEY ABSOLUTELY DO NOT NEED IT!

“We’re stuck between an urgent need for a vaccine and the uncertainty that comes about with making decisions on modest studies,” said Andrew T. Pavia, the chief of the division of pediatric infectious disease at the University of Utah. Assuming that the safety and efficacy data hold up when closely examined, Pavia said he thinks the best option is to go ahead and to continue to track rare side effects among people who choose to receive the vaccine.

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Only reason we are stuck in between is because we have hypochondriacs that need to go back to high school math to understand risk.

Its absolutely disgusting what people are doing and what they are pushing for children.

[striker42]

There is absolutely no long term understanding when these are used in humans on a mass scale.

Thats a lie.

By that logic we should wait 50 years before rolling out any new drug or vaccine. The fact that we know exactly how the process works and what happens with it is immaterial. The fact that we have actual data showing it doing exactly what it was expected to do is completely beside the point. We have do 50 years of tests to prove that any drug is safe long term before rolling it out on a mass scale.

[thethe]

By that logic we should wait 50 years before rolling out any new drug or vaccine. The fact that we know exactly how the process works and what happens with it is immaterial. The fact that we have actual data showing it doing exactly what it was expected to do is completely beside the point. We have do 50 years of tests to prove that any drug is safe long term before rolling it out on a mass scale.

But we don't have that data.

We have the data for the first 6-8 months and thats all.

But any debate will be shut down so I'm sure the people in your court will claim that no evidence exists to the contrary.

Veritas video was taken down real fast.

[striker42]

But we don't have that data.

We have the data for the first 6-8 months and thats all.

But any debate will be shut down so I'm sure the people in your court will claim that no evidence exists to the contrary.

Veritas video was taken down real fast.

One thing you don't seem to consider is that might be as long as we need. The vaccine itself is broken down completely and gone from the body within a couple weeks. All that's left are the antibodies and immune cells against the spike protein. This process is not new. We understand it really, really well.

[sturg33]

One thing you don't seem to consider is that might be as long as we need. The vaccine itself is broken down completely and gone from the body within a couple weeks. All that's left are the antibodies and immune cells against the spike protein. This process is not new. We understand it really, really well.

And we need forever booster shots

[thethe]

And we need forever booster shots

Because we understood the process so well when it was said that you would just need to get two jabs.

[thethe]

Looks like we understood the process real well.

[thethe]

Highly suggest everyone who is about to jab their kid with this experimental treatment or themselves (if you are healthy) to watch this veritas video.

Its only part 1 as well.

[acesfull86]

https://torontosun.com/news/provinci...-peoples-homes

If you thought your home was the one place where you could relax without worrying about getting fined over pandemic rules, think again.

Durham Region’s top doctor has quietly passed new rules mandating that all residents must conduct contact tracing of anyone who comes to their house for a “social gathering.” This is regardless of how many people are in attendance, how well they know each other, and the purpose of the visit.

If someone is found to not be complying, they can be hit with a $5,000 fine.

Dr. Robert Kyle, Durham Region’s medical officer of health, issued this as a Sec. 22 class order under the Ontario Health and Protection and Promotion Act that came into effect on Sept. 10.

The new rule means that coffee dates with a best friend or a play date between toddlers must now be documented and handed over to the regional health department upon request.


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COVID derangement syndrome thriving north of the border

[nsacpi]

Didn't realize things were so dire in Australia. Covid deaths by month:

June 0
July 13
August 83
Through Sep 16 109

In contrast, we can see how well Florida is doing

June 1,034
July 1,202
August 6,671
Through Sep 18 6,804

Florida is killing it. Literally. Smaller population than Australia. Over 60 times the number of deaths. Impressive.

[msstate7]

Didn't realize things were so dire in Australia. Covid deaths by month:

June 0
July 13
August 83
As of Sep 16 109

In contrast, we can see how well Florida is doing

June 1,034
July 1,202
August 6,671
Through Sep 18 6,804

If you're completely locked down, who cares if you live?

[thethe]

If you're completely locked down, who cares if you live?

Privileged people haven’t had an interruption. That’s why he doesn’t care.

[nsacpi]

If you're completely locked down, who cares if you live?

I think Florida and Mississippi are doing great. Life is good. As is the afterlife if Reeves is to be believed.

[sturg33]

Things are so dire in Australia because they have lost of semblance of liberty and privacy.

Your obsession towards a zero-covid world is laughably naive and dangerous.

Clown