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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Almost 2,000 Americans are dying a day from covid. Overwhelmingly they come from the 70 million vaccine-eligible Americans who have not vaccinated. These pro-vaccine folks are the equivalent of drunk drivers. Except instead of causing 10,000 deaths a year they are causing 2,000 deaths a day. In both cases, the deaths are a mix of people taking their own lives and the lives of others. Heck of a thing to do, killing yourself and taking down those around you. What a way to go. All in the name of some weird ideology.
    They aren't dying from COVID.

    Not even the CDC says that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    100%

    His record on Afghanistan alone should make anyone BEG to have him in our military leadership over the buffoons currently holding those positions.
    And that's why people have a hard time taking you seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    And that's why people have a hard time taking you seriously.
    Have you seen the capability of our current military leadership?

    Do you even know why Obama tried to push Flynn out of the military?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    They aren't dying from COVID.

    Not even the CDC says that.
    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...#Comorbidities

    For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate.
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    This is a pandemic of the obese.

    Anyone arguing otherwise is an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Almost 2,000 Americans are dying a day from covid. Overwhelmingly they come from the 70 million vaccine-eligible Americans who have not vaccinated. These pro-vaccine folks are the equivalent of drunk drivers. Except instead of causing 10,000 deaths a year they are causing 2,000 deaths a day. In both cases, the deaths are a mix of people taking their own lives and the lives of others. Heck of a thing to do, killing yourself and taking down those around you in the process. What a way to go. All in the name of some weird ideology.
    This is such a weird analogy, but I guess you’re going to keep going with it. How many vaccinated people are dying from covid? 0.0001% of those fully vaccinated? If I’m on the road, there’s no vaccine to protect me against a drunk driver, but there is one to protect me from covid. So I’m not seeing how this analogy works.

    If you’re going to hold the unvaccinated to that standard, curious what punishments you’re reserving for the FDA and CDC…talk about folks with blood on their hands…

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    This is such a weird analogy, but I guess you’re going to keep going with it. How many vaccinated people are dying from covid? 0.0001% of those fully vaccinated? If I’m on the road, there’s no vaccine to protect me against a drunk driver, but there is one to protect me from covid. So I’m not seeing how this analogy works.

    If you’re going to hold the unvaccinated to that standard, curious what punishments you’re reserving for the FDA and CDC…
    What about people that engage in criminality?

    Why isn't he more enraged about that election which is causing death and destruction all over the country in addition to unnecessary hospitalization.

    We all know why
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    This is a pandemic of the obese.

    Anyone arguing otherwise is an idiot.
    The top 3 from the boyz:

    1) Vaccines are likely the cause of the variants

    2) The vaccine is nothing but a tool for oppression

    3) Only the fat die young
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    The top 3 from the boyz:

    1) Vaccines are likely the cause of the variants

    2) The vaccine is nothing but a tool for oppression

    3) Only the fat die young
    (3) is undeniably true about the overwhelming percentage of people under 60 who have died from the CCP virus.

    Its not even disputed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    This is such a weird analogy, but I guess you’re going to keep going with it. How many vaccinated people are dying from covid? 0.0001% of those fully vaccinated? If I’m on the road, there’s no vaccine to protect me against a drunk driver, but there is one to protect me from covid. So I’m not seeing how this analogy works.

    If you’re going to hold the unvaccinated to that standard, curious what punishments you’re reserving for the FDA and CDC…talk about folks with blood on their hands…
    How many vaccinated people are dying of covid? Around 1-5% of the total. 20-100 per day. Then you have a much larger number (including pediatric cases of kids too young to be vaccinate) who are getting seriously sick. So I would say there is a lot of harm being done to vaccinated people by those who chose not to vaccinate.

    Even if you just focus on harm to vaccinated people and those not eligible for the vaccine, it is a lot of harm caused by one of the weirder and deadlier expressions of ideology that we've ever seen.

    The FDA and CDC deserve a lot of criticism. But they are accountable ultimately to our political representatives and ultimately to us as voters.

    The unvaccinated are like the drunk drivers before there were laws against drunk driving. They are out there merrily causing death and mayhem. At least drunk drivers didn't do it in the name of a weird ideology. The more I think about it the better drunk drivers look as a group in comparison to the pro-covid folks.

    Btw when one drunk driver kills another drunk driver, I regard that as a bad thing. Almost as bad as killing someone not drunk. I'll let you ponder the analogy with our current situation. Yeah, the pro-covid traitors are helping kill 2,000 Americans a day. It is what it is. The fact that most of their victims are also pro-covid traitors is an interesting and strange twist (kind of like the South seceding but then turning their muskets on themselves) but it doesn't change the fact.
    Last edited by nsacpi; 09-22-2021 at 09:29 AM.
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    Same viral loads
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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    This is such a weird analogy, but I guess you’re going to keep going with it. How many vaccinated people are dying from covid? 0.0001% of those fully vaccinated? If I’m on the road, there’s no vaccine to protect me against a drunk driver, but there is one to protect me from covid. So I’m not seeing how this analogy works.

    If you’re going to hold the unvaccinated to that standard, curious what punishments you’re reserving for the FDA and CDC…talk about folks with blood on their hands…
    You're talking to the one of the dumbest humans I've ever witnessed. Trump sent him spiraling into depths of stupidity I've never seen
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    You're talking to the one of the dumbest humans I've ever witnessed. Trump sent him spiraling into depths of stupidity I've never seen
    "The vaccines are likely the cause of the variants."

    "The vaccine is nothing but a tool for oppression."

    keep em coming

    i really have to say the commitment of the pro-covid folks to their ideology is commendable...y'all taking yuge casualties and refuse to retreat...it is a thing to marvel at
    Last edited by nsacpi; 09-22-2021 at 09:25 AM.
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    Shame we didn't elect this guy. But he would have gotten a worse opposition than even Trump did

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    "The vaccines are likely the cause of the variants."

    "The vaccine is nothing but a tool for oppression."

    keep em coming
    The vaccine as a voluntary medical decision a truly great achievement

    The vaccine as a means to control people's liberty is a tool of oppression.

    I understand you are an old man and don't think so clearly anymore... but the distinction is a pretty easy one to grasp
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    "The vaccines are likely the cause of the variants."

    "The vaccine is nothing but a tool for oppression."

    keep em coming
    Russian Collusion
    Gang Raping
    Russian Bounties
    Laptop was Russian Disinformation
    Naturally occurring virus

    Should I go on?
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    “ The FDA and CDC deserve a lot of criticism. But they are accountable ultimately to our political representatives and ultimately to us as voters.”

    Wishful thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    “ The FDA and CDC deserve a lot of criticism. But they are accountable ultimately to our political representatives and ultimately to us as voters.”

    Wishful thinking
    We can't vote them out?

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    Who wants to bet that if the left were the ones saying don't trust the vaccine that the lecturing buffoon would have no comments at all.

    It would all be a failure on Trump for his messaging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Shame we didn't elect this guy. But he would have gotten a worse opposition than even Trump did

    I imagine he is against the vaccine mandates we've had for years and perhaps even to fluoride in the water supply. Ideological consistency!
    Last edited by nsacpi; 09-22-2021 at 10:12 AM.
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