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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Michigan Gov. Whitmer's health director received payout amid abrupt resignation: report

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mic...ut-resignation
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You’re so close. Keep developing this thought.

    What are the obesity rates in the most populous regions?
    Lower in Ontario and Quebec than the country as a whole.

    Just as they are lower in New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts than in the United States as a whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Lower in Ontario and Quebec than the country as a whole.

    Just as they are lower in New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts than in the United States as a whole.
    And let’s think harder about those northeast states. Were there any unique actions that caused a divergence with obesity to mortality rates?

    What’s amusing about this is I know you know the answer. I’m an auditor at heart man. I did this for a living so I know when to spot someone attempting to deceive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    And let’s think harder about those northeast states. Were there any unique actions that caused a divergence with obesity to mortality rates?

    What’s amusing about this is I know you know the answer. I’m an auditor at heart man. I did this for a living so I know when to spot someone attempting to deceive.
    You can zero out all the deaths in NY city and still have a substantially worse outcome in the US than in Canada.
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    He will never accept anything outside of Trump is responsible for everything bad.

    What is Biden doing any different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    You can zero out all the deaths in NY city and still have a substantially worse outcome in the US than in Canada.
    That’s our point.

    Obesity.

    It’s clearly the answe despite how many pointless hoops you are jumping through.

    But please continue to tell me how the obesity to mortality rate in the northeast tells us that obesity isn’t the biggest driver despite the obvious outlier disaster that was administered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    That’s our point.

    Obesity.

    It’s clearly the answe despite how many pointless hoops you are jumping through.

    But please continue to tell me how the obesity to mortality rate in the northeast tells us that obesity isn’t the biggest driver despite the obvious outlier disaster that was administered.
    My point is zeroing out NY deaths and controlling for obesity differences makes only a fractional dent in the very large difference in covid death rates between the US and Canada. And then when you look at climate and density, those things work against Canada. So it is pretty clear to me that there is an inference to be made that our public health policy response as a country has been quite a bit inferior to Canada's. Obviously, those are my back of the envelope calculations. But when the differences are this large, more sophisticated analysis is unlikely to overturn back of the envelope analysis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    He will never accept anything outside of Trump is responsible for everything bad.

    What is Biden doing any different?
    He aint pushing doctor stella as a voice to be listened to. "I was very impressed with her...I thought she made sense." It's basically a crude form of denialism. That was the message coming from the head of state. That's your boy in action. It is a shocking thing that somehow we got used to. Policy to a significant extent was influenced by denialism and magical thinking. Not much difference from Mbeki's denialism with respect to AIDS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    My point is zeroing out NY deaths and controlling for obesity differences makes only a fractional dent in the very large difference in covid death rates between the US and Canada. And then when you look at climate and density, those things work against Canada. So it is pretty clear to me that there is an inference to be made that our public health policy response as a country has been quite a bit inferior to Canada's. Obviously, those are my back of the envelope calculations. But when the differences are this large, more sophisticated analysis is unlikely to overturn back of the envelope analysis.
    We have by far the highest obesity rate in the world for a developed nation.

    We know the Comorbidities that ramp up the lethality with the virus are all found in obesity.

    You actually need more than this??

    What you just wrote is a big word salad that is effectively paralysis through over analysis. The answer is right in front of you and whenever your logical train of thought is shown to be folly you move to a completely new irrelevant one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    He aint pushing doctor stella as a voice to be listened to. "I was very impressed with her...I thought she made sense." It's basically a crude form of denialism. That was the message coming from the head of state. That's your boy in action.

    And somehow that made the virus spread?

    You focus on things that don't matter to make very large conclusions.

    Reality is Biden is doing nothing different that matter... he takes it seriously! And yet, 70,000 people have died under his watch.

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    The formers might have helped decrease vaccine hesitancy by making this public while still in office
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    We have by far the highest obesity rate in the world for a developed nation.

    We know the Comorbidities that ramp up the lethality with the virus are all found in obesity.

    You actually need more than this??

    What you just wrote is a big word salad that is effectively paralysis through over analysis. The answer is right in front of you and whenever your logical train of thought is shown to be folly you move to a completely new irrelevant one.
    by far? we don't have an obesity rate twice as high as Canada's...it is fractionally higher...but we had a covid death rate almost 3 times as high...that would be an example of "by far"
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    And somehow that made the virus spread?

    You focus on things that don't matter to make very large conclusions.

    Reality is Biden is doing nothing different that matter... he takes it seriously! And yet, 70,000 people have died under his watch.
    AIDS didn't become an epidemic in South Africa due to Mbeki's denialism...but the denialism had terrible effects on the policy response...it undoubtedly made things worse in a variety of ways...it confused the public...it hindered public health policy...same thing with your boy
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    by far? we don't have an obesity rate twice as high as Canada's...it is fractionally higher...but we had a covid death rate almost 3 times as high...that would be an example of "by far"
    Now couple obesity rate with density since I’ve proved to you that the most dense areas in Canada have their lowest obesity rates

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Now couple obesity rate with density since I’ve proved to you that the most dense areas in Canada have their lowest obesity rates

    Frustrating when smart people are stubborn because they hate being wrong.
    He's not smart. Why do you keep thinking this idiot is smart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    He's not smart. Why do you keep thinking this idiot is smart?
    He’s suffering what half the country is. Mental delusions.

    A lot of these people are actually incredibly intelligent so I’ll continue to try to reach the rationality over emotion on these people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    He’s suffering what half the country is. Mental delusions.

    A lot of these people are actually incredibly intelligent so I’ll continue to try to reach the rationality over emotion on these people.
    He's an academic who gets everything wrong like most academic. Someone as wrong as frequently as nsacpi and fauci are nothing but idiots

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    He's an academic who gets everything wrong like most academic. Someone as wrong as frequently as nsacpi and fauci are nothing but idiots
    There is a huge difference between intelligence and wisdom. That’s for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Now couple obesity rate with density since I’ve proved to you that the most dense areas in Canada have their lowest obesity rates

    Frustrating when smart people are stubborn because they hate being wrong.
    the more dense areas are almost the same as the national average

    Canada obesity rate 22.7
    Ontaria 22.7
    Quebec 21.8

    You're hanging your hat on an awfully slender reed
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    There is a huge difference between intelligence and wisdom. That’s for sure.
    i appreciate the robust defense
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